Long-haul cargo question?
04-05-2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by captain_drew
Don't think a 737 -winglets or not - has the range for a JFK/FRA run. . unless they can hit the tanker off Ireland 
could be wrong. .
could be wrong. .
04-08-2006, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails
There is currently one flight from the New York area to Germany on an A-319 and B-737 on PrivatAir. Granted it's got more fuel capacity than a standard model but they are doing it.
04-08-2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cargo hopeful
So is it safe to say that as far as fedex and ups goes, their 727 don’t do international flights. What about their A300’s??
All the "Long Haul" is done by the MD-11.
Our A-300's and 727's fly to Canada and Mexico. We have a couple runs down to Bogota, Panama City and Valencia Venezuela.
We use to have a few 727's based in Europe and and one based in South America. Each flew throughout Western Europe or Argentina, Chile, and Brazil respectively.
The A-300's are in the process or have taken over those routes. Neither aircraft flew Trans oceanic or flew down to Brazil from the US. They just based the aircraft down there and Deadheaded crews to/from each locale. It use to be very good and very Senior flying...............
04-08-2006, 02:31 PM
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Night Flying Through Different Time Zones.
Hello,No matter which way you look at it night flying is an occupational hazard as you do not see at much as you do in the daytime. There are also no International Duty times as compared to the Stateside flying thanks to the bureaucratic FAA!
Its a tradeoff as we all need to make a living doing something, but in reality depending on who you work for the conditions are dictated by who you fly with, and how well you get along with each other etc.
Night flying will definitely cause you to age much faster. Fatique is also killer, as many Aircraft accidents with Fatalities that have occurred at night would not of occurred in the daytime. (AA- Flying Tigers- Emery- Eastern- PAA)
Thanks.
04-08-2006, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by charley
No matter which way you look at it night flying is an occupational hazard as you do not see at much as you do in the daytime.
Night flying is better -and easier because the air is generally smoother and the WX less intense and you don’t have ANYWHERE near the ‘traffic’ you have to contend with in daylight! NOT TO MENTION. .the runway lights (airport environs) jump out of the dark better at you on a minimums approach. You are talking jibberish .. from a 30-year night puke.
The ‘occupational hazard’ is personal! Your ability to regulate your body, circadian rhythms, getting sleep when you need to get it and not when your body wants it.
Originally Posted by charley
There are also no International Duty times as compared to the Stateside flying thanks to the bureaucratic FAA!
Originally Posted by charley
. . .as many Aircraft accidents with Fatalities that have occurred at night would not of occurred in the daytime.
04-08-2006, 09:48 PM
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I agree; night flying suits some people better than others. It fits me great. I fly for a supplemental, long haul cargo carrier. Our schedules can vary fairly widely; however, but if you just think about when you're leaving and set yourself up for that time, you should have few problems: eat dinner at noon, sleep; then a twelve hour flight seems like a normal work day. Trying to stay on your home time clock is mostly impossible.
Europe to North America is the easiest for me. Our flights leave at dinner time and arrive in time to grab a beer.
I think its hardest on guys with the young familes at home trying to keep in touch. When I want to talk to my wife its middle of the night, so we miss some days; but I know the pool boy is there to keep her company...
Europe to North America is the easiest for me. Our flights leave at dinner time and arrive in time to grab a beer.
I think its hardest on guys with the young familes at home trying to keep in touch. When I want to talk to my wife its middle of the night, so we miss some days; but I know the pool boy is there to keep her company...
04-09-2006, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by captain_drew
Oh BS!
BS again! Just because you are off shore doesn’t mean ‘the rules’ go away!
BS again! Just because you are off shore doesn’t mean ‘the rules’ go away!
I am not 100% sure but I believe that FedEx operates under the supplemental side but you proabaly have a provision in the contract that states duty/flight limits
04-09-2006, 06:08 PM
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[QUOTE=captain_drew]Oh BS!
Night flying is better -and easier because the air is generally smoother and the WX less intense and you don’t have ANYWHERE near the ‘traffic’ you have to contend with in daylight! NOT TO MENTION. .the runway lights (airport environs) jump out of the dark better at you on a minimums approach. You are talking jibberish .. from a 30-year night puke.
The ‘occupational hazard’ is personal! Your ability to regulate your body, circadian rhythms, getting sleep when you need to get it and not when your body wants it.
Night flying is not more dangerous...tired/fatigued crew members are dangerous day or night.
Night flying is better -and easier because the air is generally smoother and the WX less intense and you don’t have ANYWHERE near the ‘traffic’ you have to contend with in daylight! NOT TO MENTION. .the runway lights (airport environs) jump out of the dark better at you on a minimums approach. You are talking jibberish .. from a 30-year night puke.
The ‘occupational hazard’ is personal! Your ability to regulate your body, circadian rhythms, getting sleep when you need to get it and not when your body wants it.
Night flying is not more dangerous...tired/fatigued crew members are dangerous day or night.
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