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-Fatty

The guy that brought up the psychological term 'anal retentive' wins the prize.

WHAT a bunch of weenies!

'ATC' is just trying to help you dorks out -and improve your employer's bottom line! IE: lower fuel burn . .stock price . . dividends . .. fiscal soundness.

Some of you guys have been watching too much Boston Legal. . . or imagine you are lawyers. Think about what the 'can do' pioneers of aviation would be thinking of your limp dick responses here. Pitiful !!

I thought this was a 'team effort' here? Too much 'CYA' going on for an old timer. Accept the damn clearance -and if you 'lose' him -due to your own weaknesses . .due to your own pizz poor airman ship . . call it out. . . and get a vector out of the situation.

Whatever you say, cowgirl.






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Y'all ever hear the famous last words of Will Rogers?

"Yeah, Wiley, he's a great pilot...."

You mean, like the "back in the Falcon" guys?

At least we'll accept a transponder code that includes "666" in the number!

Oh yea, and when you're pulling back the throttles to go slow into SAN (hmm, wonder why anyone would do that? ), its hard to over take anyone!

Amen Brother!!!

Great example of my point is the latest MD-FSR submitted for, and I kid you not, a failed cargo door test! After pushback, or so the lecture goes, they get a failed cargo door test, do the manual test, it fails then they block back in. Wow, thanks for the report. I feel SOOO much safer! Perhaps we should nominate the Capt for the daedalion award. Humorous to me that somebody would actually take the time to write a missive about such an inconsequential event, one that doesn't even fall under the reasons to submit the report in the first place.

"AR" all the way!

I was watching 4 T-45s take off today from El Centro and I was thinking about this 'visual separation' thread and wondering if there would be such a big discussion in their ready room. Reading this thread has certainly given me a new perspective on the whole thing. I've never put that much thought into it.

USMCFLYR

I flew down to Florida once on the MD-10. On the return leg, we got out to the jet and the wing anti-ice was deferred. MEL said that you have to remain clear of icing conditions.

The captain said, no problem - he had printed out the satellite picture of the southeast, and if we just aviated a little west of our filed route we'd be fine.

I asked him if he'd realized what we were signing up for - maintaining VFR at night at Mach .82. Hitting clouds and then getting out of them is not "remaining clear" of icing conditions.

You guys with the eagle eyes and the fighter reflexes are all studs and all, but the FAA can ruin your whole day - I've seen it many times, and I'd say over 50% of the time the pilot is trying to do the company a favor.

Consistently spotting the right 727 at night with no logo lights from ~3 miles away while flying a two-man airliner through the takeoff profile... you guys are Yeager, man.....