FDX-Thank you and congratulations!
12-09-2008 | 04:45 PM
#11
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From: Continuing The Dream
Hey - the positive spin. I'll move up 4 in ANC. I won't have to go to the sim for 3-3 and a V1 cut before each trip. I won't train with the reduced BLGs set at 48 credit hours. And I hear Mr. Shipman is going to build the B-777 VTOs.
12-09-2008 | 04:45 PM
#12
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From: 767 Trunk Monkey
So Sir,
My question to you is: rather than just "choking a little before finally walking out", why didn't you voice your objections, right then and there, in front of your fellow hub-turners and g_d? By just walking out, you did nothing, either for your case, or for those who weren't there, who agree with your point of view. Being from the North East, I've always found that direct, respectful, confrontation is far and away better than just thinking "that guy is an A hole" and leaving it at that. As I've said before, if you don't spend the time to tell someone that he or she is wrong, and why, than you can't expect them to alter their behavior or point of view. Each of us is responsible for letting our elected officials know how we feel about a specific issue.
JJ
My question to you is: rather than just "choking a little before finally walking out", why didn't you voice your objections, right then and there, in front of your fellow hub-turners and g_d? By just walking out, you did nothing, either for your case, or for those who weren't there, who agree with your point of view. Being from the North East, I've always found that direct, respectful, confrontation is far and away better than just thinking "that guy is an A hole" and leaving it at that. As I've said before, if you don't spend the time to tell someone that he or she is wrong, and why, than you can't expect them to alter their behavior or point of view. Each of us is responsible for letting our elected officials know how we feel about a specific issue.
JJ
No excuse, sir!
Guilty as charged; have a hard time with that "respectful disagreement" thang. Seriously though, I been an active correspondent with my Block & LEC Reps over the last several years. The fact that my LEC Chair was standing beside said individual, giving the union's--ready for a big word?--imprimateur (or stamp of approval for my fellow uneducmacated pilots from the South) gave me pause. That and the fact I'm relatively new on the property--not an excuse, just not ready to trash those many who have worked here a lot longer than me to build both the company AND the union to what it is today. OK, strike the union part. Still happy to be here, but obviously don't get the big picture.
12-09-2008 | 04:45 PM
#13
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Nice lookin' tree, there!
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From: Tool-Box, old man
An Idea!
I just had a moment of clarity,...maybe we can get our new Negotiating Chariman to press Mgmt. to "grandfather" anyone who bids the 777 now with MD11/Bus pay rates, even AFTER a new rate is negotiated? I wonder how many names would be on the SECOND practice bid?
12-09-2008 | 04:55 PM
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From: Retired
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No excuse, sir! Guilty as charged; have a hard time with that "respectful disagreement" thang. Seriously though, I been an active correspondent with my Block & LEC Reps over the last several years. The fact that my LEC Chair was standing beside said individual, giving the union's--ready for a big word?--imprimateur (or stamp of approval for my fellow uneducmacated pilots from the South) gave me pause. That and the fact I'm relatively new on the property--not an excuse, just not ready to trash those many who have worked here a lot longer than me to build both the company AND the union to what it is today. OK, strike the union part. Still happy to be here, but obviously don't get the big picture.
No excuse, sir!
Guilty as charged; have a hard time with that "respectful disagreement" thang. Seriously though, I been an active correspondent with my Block & LEC Reps over the last several years. The fact that my LEC Chair was standing beside said individual, giving the union's--ready for a big word?--imprimateur (or stamp of approval for my fellow uneducmacated pilots from the South) gave me pause. That and the fact I'm relatively new on the property--not an excuse, just not ready to trash those many who have worked here a lot longer than me to build both the company AND the union to what it is today. OK, strike the union part. Still happy to be here, but obviously don't get the big picture.
12-09-2008 | 05:41 PM
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From: MD-11 Captain
Since I don't work for FedEx, I'm a little confused. What is the dispute over? Doesn't FedEx have differential pay for widebody and narrowbody? Maybe I'm wrong but doesn't the 777 MTOW compare with the MD-11's MTOW? Once again, I'm not trying to make a statement, just asking a question.
12-09-2008 | 05:48 PM
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From: Professional Commuter
Revenue generated $$$, Ultra Long Haul Flying, 20 hrs days with ND's, The list goes on.
And it is not an MD 11 pay rate, it is an Airbus pay rate, the 777 goobers are bidding for. 777 = Airbus Pay.
ALPA in itself is confusing.
And it is not an MD 11 pay rate, it is an Airbus pay rate, the 777 goobers are bidding for. 777 = Airbus Pay.
ALPA in itself is confusing.
12-09-2008 | 06:08 PM
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From: MD-11 Captain
Thanks for the answers. My bad, I thought the MD-11 and Airbus paid the same. In any case, paying the 777 less than the MD-11 seems all wrong to me but wtfdik. I guess your leverage just went bye bye. Sorry to hear that.
12-09-2008 | 06:10 PM
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From: 767 CA
The Airbus and MD do pay the same. Currently, the 777 would pay the same as the other two, according to the company.
