Its pretty easy thing to do fairly. The few times that I've ridden I've suggested that we draw numbers. I write 1-2-3-4...on slips of paper folded and put them in my hat. I let everyone else draw. I get the remaining one. The high numbers get their choice of when they rest. We all split the time. If there's 4 of us and its a 6hr flight, we each get about 2 1/2 hr rest.
Next time I do it I have to ask the 2nd shift if they want to be woken to go to the bunk if they're asleep
Pere

 

Thanks for mentioning this. I'll be in this exact situation next week when I attempt to JS from ONT to ANC. I'm pretty lucky that I snagged the last seat (Pri 7) on the Maddog, but I'm not confident that I won't get bumped or that the Capt may not want 5 jumpseaters on his aircraft.

For anyone that finds themselves in this situation, the cab ride to LAX is an option, but instead I'll jump on the ONT-BFI flight (which leaves within 5 min of the ANC flight), take a $25 cab ride to SEA, and roll the dice with Alaska Airlines.

Personally, I would never leave any jumpseater behind if I had an available seat on my aircraft. If it's a little crowded, then so be it. I'm not leaving a commuter behind with limited options so that I can have a little more legroom, but that's just me.

 

Thats my policy. I prefer to not have someone breathing down my neck, but I'll carry them from CGN to HKG if they ask to ride.
former commuter...but never again.
Pere

 

Lucky,

Even though I don't disagree that pilots should show up well rested, I do disagree with the company/FAA telling me how to get that rest. If they want to pay me, then I will sleep in a dark room set at 72 degrees for 12 hours prior to show. Other than that, It's on me, the professional pilot, to judge how my body reacts to my preparation for a flight. Some folks need 4-6 hours on two long airplane rides and they are fine, others need 12 hours of meditation in an oxygen tent. I commute in 12-24 hours early because I can't sleep well on planes. We should be addressing how the company pays us to rest, like trying to flop my body clock after a 14:30(planned/15:00 flown) trip to Nagoya/Shanghai, 24 hours off (12 hours sleep/then 12 hours wide awake), 12:00 trip to Inchon/Almaty. I do agree though, that if the lack of sleep impacts their (the poorly rested pilot's) performance, professional standards needs to be advised of the INDIVIDUALS performance.

As far as the thread, I've never had an issue sword fighting for the bunk, except over the Atlantic on a 767

And, since it's my first post, as I have read multiple times over the years, I'm an idiot, flame baiting, and have no Idea what I'm talking about. I'll come back when I have over 500 posts with a sharpened opinion that can't be denied!

 

We have a lot of former Navy P-3 pilots working at UPS.

I'm not sure if we have any P-7 pilots...hmmm I picked the wrong week to give up blow.


FF

 

Does the Navy have a P-7, or is that just an Air Force thing ?

 

The other day I was a P3. I got hungry and decided to see what was in the fridge. The meal that the CA ordered looked better than anything else, so I ate it.

Later, the CA asked if I ate his meal. I told him I did. Curiously, he wanted to know why. I asked him to show me where it's written that I can't eat whichever meal I choose.

Then I took a crap on the floor. Same explanation.

EDPM

 

Good first post, last paragraph has me though
Welcome aboard to the posting side. Much of my opinion is denied <g>

 

At least you were honest about it !

 

Funny but, I have actually had a jumpseater eat the operating crews meal.