FDX -- trips not hitting open time?
01-13-2009 | 02:46 PM
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I can specifically speak for my trip this week. FO called in sick at 1400 ish, still listed on the release at 0200 and scheduling used an airport standby to fill the launch to Europe. The trip never went into open time. They knew he was sick and didn't assign the trip until the last minute. Things that make you go HMMM.
No need to get mad at open time hawkers. They company is "taking care" of that problem without our help.
01-13-2009 | 03:37 PM
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Not to be too militant here, but what does anyone think about posting trip information and seat position for those guys that pick trips up, so that we can kind of police our own. They are only making things worse for the bottom guys, and everyone else too.
With all due respect, why would you want to pick it up? I am amazed at the lack of foresight many are showing by picking everything up that they can. Doesnt this only make managements case of overmanning? Discipline boys, discipline.
With all due respect, why would you want to pick it up? I am amazed at the lack of foresight many are showing by picking everything up that they can. Doesnt this only make managements case of overmanning? Discipline boys, discipline.
01-13-2009 | 04:31 PM
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Lets not all go nutz here. Picking up a trip is not always for the wrong reasons. If I drop 3 or 4 Rdays in Jan and then make it up in Feb it will look like extra flying, but it's not. What if I wait 3 or 4 months to make up the time I dropped. You can't look at someone's schedule in any given month and know what his deal is. What if I trip trade down a few hours and make that up the next month or the next? Be careful what you accuse people of.
We need to stick together and assume our brothers are doing the right thing. We always shoot first and ask questions later!
We need to stick together and assume our brothers are doing the right thing. We always shoot first and ask questions later!
01-13-2009 | 04:36 PM
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I can specifically speak for my trip this week. FO called in sick at 1400 ish, still listed on the release at 0200 and scheduling used an airport standby to fill the launch to Europe. The trip never went into open time. They knew he was sick and didn't assign the trip until the last minute. Things that make you go HMMM.
01-13-2009 | 05:05 PM
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01-13-2009 | 05:18 PM
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Hey man, I dont mean to scare anyone here. It just seems like common sense that we not pick up trips in open time (above our current months BLG) until we get past this "overmanning issue". If we all continue to fly make up (above our BLG) then dont we present a definitive picture of overmanning? I am not in favor of making a list and checking it twice, that is divisive as it can get, just asking peoples opinions on the issue. Settle down.
01-13-2009 | 05:20 PM
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So are you gonna just start defining the "BoxDawg rules of open-time ethics" for the rest of us to pay homage to?? Ummmm.........can I please have your approval to swap a trip to snowy Buffalo and pick up an open time trip to Vegas? Careful you don't start treating open-time trips like DP's. Now THAT'S a slippery slope!
01-13-2009 | 05:25 PM
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Like R1200 said, we can't know what someone did last month and what their makeup situation is.
I dropped down to 20 hours this month because my VTO was crap. Now I'm hawking open time to get back to something close to 68. If I don't make it, are you going to put me on the "list" if I fly heavy next month?
I dropped down to 20 hours this month because my VTO was crap. Now I'm hawking open time to get back to something close to 68. If I don't make it, are you going to put me on the "list" if I fly heavy next month?
01-13-2009 | 05:45 PM
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Like R1200 said, we can't know what someone did last month and what their makeup situation is.
I dropped down to 20 hours this month because my VTO was crap. Now I'm hawking open time to get back to something close to 68. If I don't make it, are you going to put me on the "list" if I fly heavy next month?
I dropped down to 20 hours this month because my VTO was crap. Now I'm hawking open time to get back to something close to 68. If I don't make it, are you going to put me on the "list" if I fly heavy next month?
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