In all reality, a low time guy will not get his hours here. 1. The FE seat only logs a fraction of the time and is limited. 2. You don’t fly as much as expected. 3. Overall, this is a timebuilders nightmare. 4. A “normal” fail rate here is 100%, disregard the effort BS. 5. With all the opportunity today, there are much better options. 6. This place is strictly for nerds, dweebs, smokers, A kissers, etc, and a very limited few respectable people.

Don’t listen to this guy....I flew the Convair for IFL. Training was just fine, people were nice and accommodating. I have nothing but positives to say about the place.

The Convair has a high failure rate, 50% is fair. The company is operating such old aircraft, company pilots struggle to adapt to the automation of modern aircraft when they move on. Do you honestly believe that if a guy got a job at a major, that the major is going to spend a week teaching automation? Other than the CRJ, the place is disconnected from the real world.

You would have loved it when we had DC3’s and DC4’s in the 90’s , our alumni found their way to FedEx, Delta, SWA anyway, glass makes life easy , Cheers : )

That’s a load of crap. I started out in DC3s and Convairs. I’m flying a 777 now. The ability to fly the old stuff is a valuable skill that gives you a foundation for having automation later.

Said no one on any interview board in the last decade.

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I don't disagree with your sentiment, however, no one cares about the "old stuff experience."

Disagree. I interviewed and was hired at a legacy recently. One third of the time in my HR interview was spent on the 727. The current pilot and retired pilot both flew it and loved talking shop. I think the "old stuff experience" helped tremendously.

Agree , I had interview once that seldom strayed from the 727, or DC3 .

If you happen to interview at ABX now ( I would not recommend it) most likely due to availability....you would do your sim ride in a DC8 sim. Which also happens to be the last one in the world.

I think I would much rather have someone who actually knows how to fly a plane, over someone who can push LNAV and VNAV. Air France ring a bell? Automation is something that can be taught. I guarantee if you take someone from a 787, and throw them in an A350, they won’t have the slightest idea how to work that aircrafts automation without some sort of teaching. When I was at Lakes, we had guys go straight to SWA, Alaska, Spirit, Frontier, United, FedEx, etc... granted they were at Lakes for 4-5+ years, but we flew with no autopilot or GPS. Clearly they weren’t concerned about the lack of automation