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R1200RT 02-01-2009 01:12 PM

Yea Herb is keeping everyone happy with cash. Ask them about their retirement. Fly your ass off and make a good living until you retire then nothing. Hope they are saving a lot of it.

Glad I am where I am and the best thing is they love it at SWA. 737 til you die. I'd be miserable there, and they'd be miserable here flying big plans around the world and having a good retirement.

Grass always seems greener.

MaydayMark 02-01-2009 01:18 PM

Mechanics too
 
It looks like their mechanics just signed an agreement also. Seems like Mr. K. understands the advantages of a happy (satisfied?) workforce?

AMFA Mechanics Ratify Tentative Agreement With Southwest Airlines - Yahoo! Finance

BOYCAPTAIN 02-01-2009 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by R1200RT (Post 549954)
Yea Herb is keeping everyone happy with cash. Ask them about their retirement. Fly your ass off and make a good living until you retire then nothing. Hope they are saving a lot of it.

Glad I am where I am and the best thing is they love it at SWA. 737 til you die. I'd be miserable there, and they'd be miserable here flying big plans around the world and having a good retirement.

Grass always seems greener.

nice post....u r right(for once)......glad they got a contract...i would probably hate that job...multiple legs....short layovers...weak vacation policy...same aircraft 4 life...no internantional.... no retirement....man our job is pretty darn good!

AFW_MD11 02-01-2009 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by R1200RT (Post 549954)
Yea Herb is keeping everyone happy with cash. Ask them about their retirement. Fly your ass off and make a good living until you retire then nothing. Hope they are saving a lot of it.

Glad I am where I am and the best thing is they love it at SWA. 737 til you die. I'd be miserable there, and they'd be miserable here flying big plans around the world and having a good retirement.

Grass always seems greener.

Key word - SEEMS - greener.....

SWA has stopped new hire classes. They just had a displacement bid. Their "VLT/DRF" (or whatever they call it) flying has all but dried up too.

So, the new TA "pay raise" is MORE than offset by the flying hours reduction they are seeing similar to ours.

The grass isn't greener at SWA or here - they both look like my yard right now - mostly brown. The only green is some green weeds popping up here and there (also a few green blades of new grass trying to poke through too)

Of course, that's just my outsider opinion. Ask most SWA koolaid drinking pilots and they'll tell you they just LUV everything about it over there - and they have the best deal in the industry.

It's all relative.....

FANS cripple 02-01-2009 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by BOYCAPTAIN (Post 549959)
nice post....u r right(for once)......glad they got a contract...i would probably hate that job...multiple legs....short layovers...weak vacation policy...same aircraft 4 life...no internantional.... no retirement....man our job is pretty darn good!

Posting from your cell phone? Just a guess.

Huck 02-01-2009 02:36 PM


Just flew with another pilot (mil retired w/26 yr pension, about 10 yrs at FEDEX, about 57-58 yrs old) who's just staying on until 60 because he doesn't want to take a penalty for going early.
Guys like that are going to pull the handles when they see what's going to happen to "normal" retirement at age 60. Wait for the company's opener next year....

As for me and mine - SWA's retirement is my retirement. Our pension will go the way of everyone else's. The free market is unstoppable over time.

MaydayMark 02-01-2009 03:05 PM

I won't have my 25 years when I turn 60 and I'm out of here then (unless the company makes me a similar offer sooner?).

MeXC 02-01-2009 03:45 PM

Huck, agree. Thought it might take a little longer than the next round of negotiations, but if it were me on the company side of the table the first item on the chopping block would be Age 60 Retirement. Ergo, effectively you are forced to work until 65 if you'd like a retirement. As for the results of the Age 65 legislation, this is the worst in my opinion.

MaydayMark 02-01-2009 03:52 PM

I stopped the NC chairman at the last union meeting and advised him that I'm a single issue voter on the next contract. That is if the CBA doesn't say, "Normal retirement age is 60" that I'm voting NO. If it's important to you guys, I encourage you to do the same ...

Huck 02-01-2009 03:52 PM

No way around it. They've got a signed resolution from our unanimous MEC with the number 60 all over it. Can't have your cake and eat it too.


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