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Old 04-20-2009 | 01:14 PM
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Without new freight, vacancy bids are just a shift from one airframe to another.

News of them seemed positive at first but then I realized another bid pack would be shrinking.
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Old 04-20-2009 | 04:08 PM
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I'm not telling you to break out the Bobby McFerrin or anything, I'm just saying that all things considered it could be even worse. We are in a slow economy with a company that pretty much only wants money from us which isn't new. It's much less fun when they want your money, your job, all with little interest in actually running the company they supposedly 'lead'.
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Old 04-20-2009 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso
Given that 09-04 is coming out soon and according to PC we may see 09-05 and or 09-06 in Sep-Nov, doesn't seem like it will be awhile before there's a concrete answer to that question? At this point we still don't even know how aggressively they will schedule training on 09-03 given that those affected by it could again be impacted by 09-04 and beyond.
09-03 is already affecting training. I just had my down bid training moved up 2 months and i can only figure that its was because of the bid. Who knows any more.
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Old 04-20-2009 | 06:48 PM
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09-03 is already affecting training. I just had my down bid training moved up 2 months and i can only figure that its was because of the bid. Who knows any more.
I tried to look at the training letter again. Gone.

Working on it again.

wonder what's wrong this time.?
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Old 04-20-2009 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jagplt
I tried to look at the training letter again. Gone.

Working on it again.

wonder what's wrong this time.?
They might be waiting until Friday to release your accelerated downbid training there, Cletus.
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Old 04-20-2009 | 08:16 PM
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My date for ANC was moved up by 2 weeks. Had a crew notification today with a 2 week move-up. Tried to look at the 11 training letter, and it's not there...
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Old 04-21-2009 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cma2407
They might be waiting until Friday to release your accelerated downbid training there, Cletus.
let me know when yours is so I can expect mine soon after then Fish right after that!!
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Old 04-21-2009 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jagplt
wonder what's wrong this time.?
We're screwed, because we're all "too smart" for our own collective good!

These forums are like a high school debate contest. Even if we agree on the real answer, we need to show how intelligent we are by identifying the weaknesses in the previous poster's argument.

I'm changing my standing bid to ME @ 100% just so I'll fit in better!
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Old 04-21-2009 | 11:58 AM
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Valid and salient points but will not go anywhere, especially with a self centered and "all about me" group of folks like we have here ............... I don't see anyone really out there to support the Junior guys and gals, not even our own Union !!! The last "go around" of negotiations ended up in a blur and "sprinkles of money all over the place". See, that is what folks want around here ................ $$$ first and then maybe complain about it later. Hiding Calendars, same constant carryover bidders, blah, blah, blah.
We have only proved to this Company, that we are a miserable bunch not capable of helping ourselves out of a wet paper bag ............... STRIKE FIRST then work it out ? Not with this current leadership and work group.
This is NOT Europe, this is USA style of working conditions designed to protect the EMPLOYERS, not the employees ............................. Just take a look at how the NLRB decision for GROUND drivers was struck down on Appeal motions by the Company !!! Don't kid yourselves ...................................
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Old 04-21-2009 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy
especially with a self centered and "all about me" group of folks like we have here ................
I'm confused, are you including yourself....or excluding yourself?
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