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Captain Cook 08-20-2009 06:41 PM

202 Retirements by 2012 at UPS
 
There's a really interesting thread on the B&G from Roberto about the number of UPS retirements.

According to him (correct me if I'm wrong Bob):

Retirements from the most recent seniority list compared to the Aug 08 list: 77

Age 65 in remainder of 2009: 6

Age 65 in 2010: 26

Age 65 in 2011: 45

Age 65 in 2012: 48

We retired three fleet types of three-man airplanes in the last two years, and our last new hire class here at UPS was November of 2007 (almost two years ago.)

Shaggy1970 08-20-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Cook (Post 665708)
There's a really interesting thread on the B&G from Roberto about the number of UPS retirements.

According to him (correct me if I'm wrong Bob):

Retirements from the most recent seniority list compared to the Aug 08 list: 77

Age 65 in remainder of 2009: 6

Age 65 in 2010: 26

Age 65 in 2011: 45

Age 65 in 2012: 48

We retired three fleet types of three-man airplanes in the last two years, and our last new hire class here at UPS was November of 2007 (almost two years ago.)

So whats your point?

Albief15 08-20-2009 06:55 PM

His point was every FO needs to always carry a pack of cigarettes for the captain and a few motorcycle brochures to keep in his flightbag. Remember--helments are for p*ssies.

Shaggy1970 08-20-2009 06:59 PM

Albie, I am sorry I guess I am dense, but I still don't get it! If the point is that I will be a FO at UPS till the end of time that I do get!

Captain Cook 08-20-2009 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaggy1970 (Post 665721)
Albie, I am sorry I guess I am dense, but I still don't get it! If the point is that I will be a FO at UPS till the end of time that I do get!

That's the point. I don't think I really need to spell it out for you do I?

Slice 08-20-2009 07:24 PM

Maybe we should concentrate on a better retirement package next round...it could motivate Favre's to leave earlier and they may actually live longer post Brown, win-win.

Freightpuppy 08-20-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Slice (Post 665733)
Maybe we should concentrate on a better retirement package next round...it could motivate Favre's to leave earlier and they may actually live longer post Brown, win-win.


Ha! I say let's get rid of the A plan. It won't be around by the time we retire anyway so why take care of the old farts. They'll have enough money with the windfall they just got. It's obvious they don't give a crap about us these days so why should we care about them....LMAO!








(now before some of you get your panties in a bunch and start posting things like "those old farts made ups a better place to work for you" yada yada yada......I AM JOKING!)

Freightpuppy 08-20-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaggy1970 (Post 665721)
Albie, I am sorry I guess I am dense, but I still don't get it! If the point is that I will be a FO at UPS till the end of time that I do get!

Amen Shaggy! Isn't it nice we did get the FO rates fixed at least? Can you imagine this cluster PLUS the old "screw the FO's" rates?

Roberto 08-20-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freightpuppy (Post 665773)
Amen Shaggy! Isn't it nice we did get the FO rates fixed at least? Can you imagine this cluster PLUS the old "screw the FO's" rates?

Freightpuppy, I keep repeating this but it doesn't seem to sink in. We didn't fix "FO" rates. We changed the longevity scale, favoring those between 2-8 years of longevity at the expense of those with 9 or more years. Long-time FO's will be making less as a result.

Is Favre returning again?? Fantastic! <g>
Don't get your panties in a bunch.... I'm joking.

Doesn't that child need a haircut?

Capt TedStriker 08-20-2009 11:00 PM

The Numbers are Really Less.....
 
It is a bit more gloomy than you think.

A lot of the "retirements" that Roberto posted for this year do not really effect the average line guy.... Most of them were PFE's.... Also a number of the guys on this years list that Roberto posted were guys that were either fired or died. Kind of tasteless.:cool:


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