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#11
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Originally Posted by Browntail
That's too bad that UPS is not buying CAT. I'd like nothing more than seeing you "Challenged"!!!!
#12
Originally Posted by captjns
Son… you already are challenged… mentally challenged that is. Now you just sit in the corner like a good little by and eat your cookies and drink your milk and let the grown ups continue.
Too bad YOU won't "continue" to fly after the end of the month!!!
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Originally Posted by Browntail
Too bad YOU won't "continue" to fly after the end of the month!!!
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I just read an interesting article recently and it dealt with the issue of operating the less fuel efficient aircraft types. Specifically, it talked about the high costs associated with aircraft such as DC-10's, 747-200's, and 727's. Anyways, it made me wonder if there might not be some kind of consolidation among the contractor carrrers.
It seems like a catch-22 for some of these outfits. It's expensive to operate these older aircraft, but it is also very expensive to purchase newer, more fuel efficient aircraft. Either way there is money to be lost. And with a lot of contract work being harder to find, who is willing to invest a lot of money into it?
It seems like a catch-22 for some of these outfits. It's expensive to operate these older aircraft, but it is also very expensive to purchase newer, more fuel efficient aircraft. Either way there is money to be lost. And with a lot of contract work being harder to find, who is willing to invest a lot of money into it?
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Purchasing aircraft is not the problem. Its finding the facilities to cut holes in the side is the problem. There is a two year wait at most facilities.
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Originally Posted by Browntail
That's too bad that UPS is not buying CAT. I'd like nothing more than seeing you "Challenged"!!!!
#17
Originally Posted by kkaptain
You really are an @ss^!#$*. I really think it's time to replenish that Costco sized vaseline in your brown flight case. I used to fly for CAT and there are a lot of good guys of over there but none too good to not line up and give you a good ass whoopin'. You are a little b^%*@h and only way you can get any tail, Browntail, is to pull your head out of it and use your fist. Happy days are coming to an end for you real soon. You can count on it!
You are right. I'm going to give up my cake domestic schedule for the around the world death marches on either the 747-400 or A-380!
#18
Originally Posted by Browntail
You are right. I'm going to give up my cake domestic schedule for the around the world death marches on either the 747-400 or A-380!
... moron

(to everyone else in the thread: Sorry, it's been a slow day here, decided to go on an Anti-BrownStain tirade!
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It is an unfortunate situation for everyone at CAT and I wish everyone the best of luck. There are many people at CAT that have a large stake in the outcome of CAT’s success or failure, besides just employment. Most of the pilots at CAT have had to pay for their training out of their own pocket.
In many cases the FE’s are low-time pilots having shelled out $33000 to fly as an FE and then upgrade to an FO. You can go directly into the right seat if you have 1500+ hours for around $20000. This will give you a 727 SIC type rating. Additionally, there is only one door to CAT employment, and that’s through Sim Center. Side note; a 727 PIC type rating can be obtained for about $7000-$8000 from other training facilities.
I know that Sim Center http://www.simcenter.cc/index.php has been pumping out around 5-8 FE’s and FO’s every five weeks (do the math.) These pilots are all paying for their training and now are not being delivered what they were promised. The program is advertised as a “short-cut to the airlines.”
Let’s take another look at Sim Center and its relationship to CAT. There is a company called Jet University www.jetuniversity.com/ . These folks do the marketing for Sim Center and were formerly pushing Gulfstream’s First Officer program. Next is Sim Center, that provides the actual flight training. Lastly, we have Jet Flight Crews International, which leases flight crews to CAT. Sim Center and Jet Flight Crews International are both owned by Henry George. Hmm, do you suppose Henry is greasing anyone? Sim Center KNEW that CAT’s UPS contract was ending, yet happily took everyone’s money. Do you suppose this would be an indictable offense, fraud maybe?
Technically, everyone at CAT that entered CAT through Sim Center and is an employee of Jet Flight Crews International, was and will not be furloughed since they are not employees of CAT. Many people just finishing class will possibly never step foot in a CAT aircraft or receive a penny refunded from Henry George. I know, cry me a river!
Any intelligent advice besides don’t be a dumb-@ss by paying for training???
In many cases the FE’s are low-time pilots having shelled out $33000 to fly as an FE and then upgrade to an FO. You can go directly into the right seat if you have 1500+ hours for around $20000. This will give you a 727 SIC type rating. Additionally, there is only one door to CAT employment, and that’s through Sim Center. Side note; a 727 PIC type rating can be obtained for about $7000-$8000 from other training facilities.
I know that Sim Center http://www.simcenter.cc/index.php has been pumping out around 5-8 FE’s and FO’s every five weeks (do the math.) These pilots are all paying for their training and now are not being delivered what they were promised. The program is advertised as a “short-cut to the airlines.”
Let’s take another look at Sim Center and its relationship to CAT. There is a company called Jet University www.jetuniversity.com/ . These folks do the marketing for Sim Center and were formerly pushing Gulfstream’s First Officer program. Next is Sim Center, that provides the actual flight training. Lastly, we have Jet Flight Crews International, which leases flight crews to CAT. Sim Center and Jet Flight Crews International are both owned by Henry George. Hmm, do you suppose Henry is greasing anyone? Sim Center KNEW that CAT’s UPS contract was ending, yet happily took everyone’s money. Do you suppose this would be an indictable offense, fraud maybe?
Technically, everyone at CAT that entered CAT through Sim Center and is an employee of Jet Flight Crews International, was and will not be furloughed since they are not employees of CAT. Many people just finishing class will possibly never step foot in a CAT aircraft or receive a penny refunded from Henry George. I know, cry me a river!
Any intelligent advice besides don’t be a dumb-@ss by paying for training???
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