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Old 10-29-2009, 09:02 PM
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If you call in sick for a trip, do you keep the bank money for that trip. I am pretty sure that you do, but wanted to run it past someone else.
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Old 10-29-2009, 09:55 PM
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No, you don't keep the bank money. The CBA says in Chap.8.C.2.a:
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a. A pilot shall have a deviation bank established for each bid period. The value of the deviation bank shall equal the value of the scheduled deadhead tickets for trips flown during the bid period.
You actually have to fly the trip in order to keep the bank money. No fly = No money. Sorry.
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Old 10-30-2009, 03:35 AM
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Not positive about sick, but the more accurate statement is "if you get paid for a trip" you keep bank. If you are involuntarily removed (bumped, FAR'd, etc.), you keep the bank.
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I agree with Leroy, you have to get paid for the trip. If you are sick, you lose the bank.
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If you call in sick for the trip, you do get paid for it. A better way of looking at it would be that only one pilot will get the bank. In your case, it will be the guy who gets the trip after you are removed from it for being sick.
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Originally Posted by fedupbusdriver View Post
If you call in sick for the trip, you do get paid for it. A better way of looking at it would be that only one pilot will get the bank. In your case, it will be the guy who gets the trip after you are removed from it for being sick.
Yep. Let me say it again more clearly. If you are talking about calling in sick, you actually have to fly the trip in order to keep the bank money. You must operate the trip in order to keep the deadhead money. If you call in sick in the middle of a trip, you only keep the deadhead money for those deadheads on the trip before you called in sick.
Leroy is also right about keeping the bank money if you get bumped.
A simple way to look at bank monies, is that if it is your action, i.e., calling in sick, that causes you to not operate a trip, you do not keep the deadhead bank money. If it is a company action that causes you to not operate a trip, or a portion of a trip with a deadhead, i.e., bumped for training, or a deadhead is turned into an operational leg, you keep the VIPS accepted fare deadhead money in your bank.
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Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
If you call in sick for a trip, do you keep the bank money for that trip. I am pretty sure that you do, but wanted to run it past someone else.
Since most of the replies are about as clear as mud let me put it in plain English for you...NO!
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Thanks. Got it. Sick=no bank.

Sooooooo, if you get extended on a trip and as a result get put into substitution because the extended trip conflicted with your next trip, do you keep the bank on the dropped trip. According to previous posts, the answer is yes. True?
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Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
Thanks. Got it. Sick=no bank.

Sooooooo, if you get extended on a trip and as a result get put into substitution because the extended trip conflicted with your next trip, do you keep the bank on the dropped trip. According to previous posts, the answer is yes. True?
True - unless you refuse SUB
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Originally Posted by Lakeside View Post
Thanks. Got it. Sick=no bank.

Sooooooo, if you get extended on a trip and as a result get put into substitution because the extended trip conflicted with your next trip, do you keep the bank on the dropped trip. According to previous posts, the answer is yes. True?
If you take the overage in lieu of the trip guarantee for the dropped trip...You don't get the dropped trip's bank.

example: you are extended 24hrs, in the field, and conflict(overlap) with a trip worth 6hrs that has a d/h on the end. If you take the "overage" for the extension, instead of the trip guarantee for the missed trip, you lose the d/h bank.

Of course, the overage would pay more than the trip guarantee. So, you'd have to do some math.

4.BB.5. If a trip's ACH exceed OSC or the trip is operationally extended past its original scheduled return time, a pilot shall earn overage CH computed as the higher of:

a. ACH minus the sum of OSC for the trip and SCH of any subsequent trip(s) removed with pay due to actual conflict;

b. trip rig computed for the time the extended trip conflicts with time the pilot was scheduled to be free from duty at base, if such time exceeds 2 hours.


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4.BB.7. If a trip extends more than 2 hours into time scheduled free from duty at base, overage compensation for the first 12 CH shall be paid at 150% of the pilot's normal pay rate. If a pilot earns more than 12 CH of overage on a trip, the excess shall be paid at 200% of the pilot's normal pay rate.
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