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Old 06-22-2006, 01:47 PM
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Well...someone's sure full of God's love....
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by captain_drew
http://www.thomasmore.org/soledad.html

Please, if you have not already done so, sign the petition to the President ; and send the LINK to everyone on your mailing list

America's Veterans thank you
Ask President Bush to take the land under the federal
government's powers of eminent domain.
That's a joke, right? You're asking us to support the government in seizing private landowners property? Of course asking Bush to steal the land is something he certainly knows about http://www.bushfiles.com/bushfiles/SweetheartDeal.html

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Old 06-22-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by WatchThis!


That's a joke, right? You're asking us to support the government in seizing private landowners property?

NO . .it is certainly NOT a joke. And you are apparently not very well informed.

One judge says the land belongs to the City of San Diego, reversing a bone fide sale to the private party organization that runs it as the Soledad Korean War Memorial. The US Congress has ALREADY designated it a "National War Memorial", telling the National Park Service to take it over. The President has already signed the Congressional mandate.

The citizens of San Diego voted (76%) to turn the little plot of land the memorial sits on over the Federal Government. Some Leftist, 'activitist' judges have stopped the whole process. The group, which in actuality owns the land WANTS the Feds to take it into the National Park Service, thereby getting it away from the Leftie judges and making their stupid decisions moot. So the only ones pi$$ed off will be a disgusting atheist and the anti-American crowd.
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You, know I have heard the terms ALCU before, but what is it and what is its function?
Obviously a tongue in cheek . . throwing some red meat to the lions question.

Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU (http://stoptheaclu.com/)

10. The ACLU was founded by Communist, with communist ideals, communist goals, and they continue to impose a Communist like agenda on America daily. The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly…

My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and unemployment…Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the State itself…I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.”

9. The ACLU does not believe in the Second Amendment.

ACLU POLICY “The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court’s long-standing interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S. v. Miller] that the individual’s right to bear arms applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional impediment to the regulation of firearms.”ACLU Policy #47

#8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them.

#7. The ACLU are pro-death. Not only is the ACLU Pro-abortion, it’s the ACLU’s top priority. It most definitely takes a backseat to free speech for the ACLU. As a matter of fact, the ACLU has fought against the free speech rights of those that oppose it. If its abortion or euthanasia, as long as its pro-death you can count on the ACLU to support it. The only exception to the ACLU’s pro-death stance, is if it is a convicted criminal; in this case they are against death.

#6. The ACLU advocate open borders. Not only have the ACLU opposed the Minute Men, a group who are simply exercizing their freedom of speech, protesting and stepping up where the government is failing, but they have helped illegals cross the border.

#5. The ACLU is anti-Christian. The list is endless on this one. Under the guise of “seperation of Church and State”, the ACLU have made a name for theirself on being rabidly anti-Christian. This is one area where they are most hypocritical. They oppose tax exemptions for all churches, but fight for them for Wiccans. They are against Christianity in school, but oddly remain silent as our children are taught to be Muslims. Whether its baby Jesus, ten commandments, or tiny crosses on county seals, the ACLU will be there to secularize America, and rewrite our history.

#4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches, the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across the board. Its kind of ironic that they don’t practice the principles they preach.

Take a walk into the NYCLU’s Manhattan headquarters - which it shares with other organizations - and you’ll find a sign warning visitors that all bags are subject to search.

#3. The ACLU Defend the enemy. They have a long history of this one. They defended the P.L.O. in 1985. They defended Quadafi in the 1980’s. And they continue today. They have told Gitmo detainees they have the right to remain silent, as in not talking to interrogators. One issue that really disturbs me is their refusal of funds from organizations such as the United Way that were concerned the money would be used to support terrorism.

In October of 2004, the ACLU turned down $1.15 million in funding from two of it’s most generous and loyal contributors, the Ford and Rockefeller foundations, saying new anti-terrorism restrictions demanded by the institutions make it unable to accept their funds.

“The Ford Foundation now bars recipients of its funds from engaging in any activity that “promotes violence, terrorism, bigotry, or the destruction of any state.”

The Rockefeller Foundation’s provisions state that recipients of its funds may not “directly or indirectly engage in, promote, or support other organizations or individuals who engage in or promote terrorist activity.”

#2. The ACLU supports child porn distribution and child molesters like NAMBLA.

As legislative counsel for the ACLU in 1985, Barry Lynn told the U.S. Attorney General’s Commission on Pornography (of which Focus on the Family President Dr. James C. Dobson was a member) that child pornography was protected by the First Amendment. While production of child porn could be prevented by law, he argued, its distribution could not be.

There is no doubt the The ACLU are perverting the Constitution.

#1. The ACLU fufills its agenda using my tax money. What more can I say on this one?

There are countless reasons the ACLU needs to be stopped. So don’t just stand by and complain, do something. Get involved. Here are some ways you can get involved to help us stop the ACLU
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Originally Posted by surreal1221
American Civil Liberties Union

Primary mission is to protect the individiual rights of people within this country (paraphrased. . . feel free to visit the site below for the word for word mission statement). Individual rights from abortion, to free press, speech, and religion.

www.aclu.org
Including pedophiles, child molesters, illegal aliens, violent criminals, and terrorists. Basically, everyone except white people, Christians, conservatives, or anyone else that doesn't think like they do.
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Old 06-22-2006, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuce130
Including pedophiles, child molesters, illegal aliens, violent criminals, and terrorists. Basically, everyone except white people, Christians, conservatives, or anyone else that doesn't think like they do.
CONSISE & CORRECT

.. . in essence they are a Terrorist organization, out to destroy the America we know and love . . and they MUST be erradicated!
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No disrespect to anyone here, but why doesnt APC start a political forum for stuff like this? I don't see how this pertains to flying a plane?
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:12 PM
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I find it offensive that religious zealots b@$tard beat their chests averring that if we don’t believe in their Lord, then we are anti-American. How arrogant! These zealots are not better than the terrorists.

The first amendment is probably the single most important part of the Constitution. Some of the first colonists of the nation for which the Constitution was written had been seeking to escape religious persecution. The constitutions of several of the states prohibited public support of religion. And above all, the many varying sects of Christianity in America required that to be fair to all, there could be preference to none. It would have been disgraceful for anyone to wish to leave the United States because of religious persecution. So they decided it best to keep the government out of religion. Now, this is not to say that the United States was not or is not a religious one. Religion plays a big role in the everyday life of Americans, then and now. But what they were striving for is tolerance... something I fear contemporary Americans are lacking.
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Originally Posted by CL65driver
No disrespect to anyone here, but why doesnt APC start a political forum for stuff like this? I don't see how this pertains to flying a plane?
Great Question! However, I think we've been through this a time or two and there are those pesky forum rules. Here's a quick excerpt:

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There are currently NO forums that provide a venue for discussing politics or religion. While DreamLaunch Media Ltd. and Airline Pilot Central embrace the diversity the world has to offer, these subjects often are very emotional and there are many different views. In our experience the wide range of views and emotions rarely contribute to a harmonious online community or beneficial contributions to the piloting profession.
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