UPS - MOU Marketing
12-13-2009 | 08:34 AM
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UPS has several hundred under-utilized pilots to absorb any hiccups. <ng>
12-13-2009 | 08:44 AM
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I realize the intent of your post was to attack the integrity of IPA pilots, but I wouldn't lose any sleep over the possible handful of IPA guys picking up OT/JA. (Sounds like a "ban" may not be legal anyway from a B&G thread... beyond my pay grade.)
UPS has several hundred under-utilized pilots to absorb any hiccups. <ng>
UPS has several hundred under-utilized pilots to absorb any hiccups. <ng>
12-13-2009 | 08:45 AM
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3. You say you cannot afford to participate, and are just lying, because you do not want to participate.
If someone said this to me I woul call them a scab in training. I don't care if you participate or not, but for Christ sake man up and say you don't want to participate. To lie about it says to me that you are to self absorbed to care about your union, and if the day ever came when we went on strike it seems to me that these people would be in the first group to cross the line.
If someone said this to me I woul call them a scab in training. I don't care if you participate or not, but for Christ sake man up and say you don't want to participate. To lie about it says to me that you are to self absorbed to care about your union, and if the day ever came when we went on strike it seems to me that these people would be in the first group to cross the line.
12-13-2009 | 10:37 AM
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You see Joe, The IPA is a form of a collective, that is why our contract is actually called a collective bargaining agreement. If we had 2800 pilots acting as individuals as you would like, UPS would eat us alive.
I know it is tough for you to understand the concept of a union, but it would be better for all of us if you tried.
12-13-2009 | 11:24 AM
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I have no problems with the choices others make. What I have an issue with is people who have no integrity and are big fat lying pieces of crap. If you do not wish to disclose your participation (or anything else), then it is better to say you do not want to discuss the matter, rather than lie to someone's face.
12-13-2009 | 11:56 AM
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I have no problems with the choices others make. What I have an issue with is people who have no integrity and are big fat lying pieces of crap. If you do not wish to disclose your participation (or anything else), then it is better to say you do not want to discuss the matter, rather than lie to someone's face.
Affordability means many things to many people and is sufficiently broad to encompass anything from minor inconvenience to significant hardship.And the greater point I was trying to make is that it is no one's business what the individual's reasoning is for not participating.
12-13-2009 | 12:00 PM
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Sorry Joe you lost all credibility when you tried to promote individualism over collectivism in a previous post. http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ca...tml#post701973
You see Joe, The IPA is a form of a collective, that is why our contract is actually called a collective bargaining agreement. If we had 2800 pilots acting as individuals as you would like, UPS would eat us alive.
I know it is tough for you to understand the concept of a union, but it would be better for all of us if you tried.
You see Joe, The IPA is a form of a collective, that is why our contract is actually called a collective bargaining agreement. If we had 2800 pilots acting as individuals as you would like, UPS would eat us alive.
I know it is tough for you to understand the concept of a union, but it would be better for all of us if you tried.
PS Just how successful has your "collectivist" philosophy proven globally? Cuba and North Korea are shining examples of what, exactly?
12-13-2009 | 01:29 PM
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How do you KNOW they're lying? Affordability means many things to many people and is sufficiently broad to encompass anything from minor inconvenience to significant hardship.
And the greater point I was trying to make is that it is no one's business what the individual's reasoning is for not participating.
Affordability means many things to many people and is sufficiently broad to encompass anything from minor inconvenience to significant hardship.And the greater point I was trying to make is that it is no one's business what the individual's reasoning is for not participating.
As I said I don't care what your reasons are for not participating in the MOU. If you don't want to talk about it say so. I personally have never asked if someone contributes or not. The only thing I really care about is the integrity of the union.
Also FWIW when someone says the can't afford to contribute, then starts talking about the airplane, boat, or vacation house it is pretty easy to tell they are self absorbed.
12-13-2009 | 01:55 PM
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It is ABSOLUTELY none of your business how someone chooses to spend his or her legally earned money! So what if they have all the above? Good for them; it has no bearing on my life. Perhaps because of all the above, they can't afford to participate. It's their right and their choice. Why concern yourself with what others have or don't have?
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