HKGuy

I slid my December 2009 vacation into January. I still have 40 hours in my 2009 vacation bank.

I was awarded a line, and one 35 hour trip was dropped from my line because of a conflict with the vacation.

When I check my bank balances, it looks like they took 35 hours from my 2010 vacation bank to cover this trip. Furthermore, I also am now eligible for 35 hours of 2010 Make Up Vacation, even though I still have time in the 2010 vacation bank bank.

Has anyone experienced this? Should they take time from my 2010 bank even though its 2009 vacation days? Maybe it will get "fixed" after the conflict input window closes?

I tried to call futures scheduling but when they called back, I missed the call.

As always thanks for any hints! Happy Holidays!!!!

FDXLAG

My guess is 2009 vacation hours will be used to cover 2009 flying and 2010 hours for 2010 flying. How else would they know how much vacation to buy back on the 31st?

kronan

See 7.G.6.

In the hole for 2010 since your actual vacation periods are later in the year.
Hopefully, the excess vacation you have for 09 doesn't exceed your max buy back. (Load your Dec calendar and select the "Bank Balances" link and you'll see the company has already gonked it out for you)
If you are over the limit, I'd highly recommend pleading for mercy from your ACP.

Again, the MUV is because you unknowingly elected to take vacation in 2010 assuming it was a rolling bank. Thus, you're in the hole. But, fortunately we are severly overmanned (According to PC and "0") and thus the BLG will continue to be lower (Artificially lower IMO). Making up the shortage shouldn't be too tough by bidding around it or bidding Reserve w/out expanding.

Or, you could do MUV. Just remember you can't drop it once you pick it up barring ACP intervention.

Good Luck,

Dahlysia

I don't think you can make up vacation until the vacation balance is negative for the whole year. In other words, if you still have at least one hour of vacation in 2010, I don't think you can fly vacation makeup.

MaydayMark

I'm surprised you could slide your DEC vacation into JAN? Didn't think that was allowed?

2cylinderdriver

A pilot may enter a vacation slide submission during the
Confl ict Input Window immediately before the bid period
in which a trip(s) affected by the slide (or the vacation
period itself, if no trip is affected) is scheduled to begin, as
provided in Section 25.E.2. (Confl ict Input Window). A pilot
may adjust his vacation period by sliding it up to a maximum
of 5 days in either direction. However, the slide shall not
reschedule any portion of that vacation into the preceding
bid periods of November or December. A vacation period of
more than 7 days, that begins in one bid period and ends in
the following bid period, may be slid up to a maximum of 5
days in either direction.

FDXLAG

Apparently you can slide the days but not the hours. Maybe we can get the guys in the other thread to argue it out for us.

MaxKts

You got it all wrong - It has nothing to do with days! It's all about hours

Let's argue it out here

KnightFlyer

Not true.

5. Vacation Deficit and Make-Up
If a pilot's vacation credit hour bank balance falls below the credit hour value of
his remaining vacation in a calendar year, the following shall apply:
a. The pilot may bid for a make-up vacation trip(s) during the View/Add
window for the bid period in which the pilot has a vacation period that, if
taken as scheduled, would result in a vacation bank deficit. The credit hour
of the make-up vacation trip(s) shall not exceed the projected deficit by
more than 6 hours.
b. The pilot may submit for a make-up vacation trip(s) (as provided in Section
25.L.5.) at any time during the calendar year.
c. Make-up vacation credit hours earned in the last bid period of a calendar
year (i.e., December), shall be credited to the pilot's vacation credit hour
bank for the following calendar year.

HKGuy

Thanks for all the ideas.

It did let me slide, but I had to do it during the November Conflict/Input window.

Also, I am able to expand this vacation to knock out a trip later in the month. However, again, I am really using my 2010 hours.

I guess I will send a note to my ACP to ask for help so I don't loose all those hours. They will only buy back 36. Lesson learned!

Thanks again and Happy Holidays to all of you!!!!