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Old 12-25-2009 | 02:38 PM
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I don't I.D. everyone who lives in MEM as part of the 'in crowd' working for themselves. Sorry you got offended.

O.K. Let's get rid of the entitlement mentality. When a scheduled accepted fare is too low to get to/from MEM, or anywhere else, deviator and non-deviator alike should pay the difference. The only way out will be to get sick. That'll even the playing field. No more extra $$ added to the travel banks of those who don't deviate just because they aren't deviating.

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Old 12-25-2009 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
I don't I.D. everyone who lives in MEM as part of the 'in crowd' working for themselves. Sorry you got offended.

O.K. Let's get rid of the entitlement mentality. When a scheduled accepted fare is too low to get to/from MEM, or anywhere else, deviator and non-deviator alike should pay the difference. The only way out will be to get sick. That'll even the playing field. No more extra $$ added to the travel banks of those who don't deviate just because they aren't deviating.
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Old 12-25-2009 | 04:54 PM
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Soooooo,
You decide that you had better not deviate on the back end (but maybe just cancel your sked ticket via Global Travel), then the sked DH is canx'd due to whatever and you call to get a day or two added to the pairing with pay, but in the course of your travails you finally decide it would be better to deviate once the pairing is rebuilt with a new DH.
Anybody have any success with that, or is that "difference of opinion" enough to call your integrity into question?
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Old 12-25-2009 | 05:42 PM
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If you call corp travel and cancel your scheduled ticket it indicates intent to deviate. They have a paper trail on that call. IMHO you would have trouble proving otherwise if the pairing changed after that.

Could it lead to discipline if you tell scheduling you weren't deviating? I don't know and don't want to find out.
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Old 12-25-2009 | 05:53 PM
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In the past, I've bought a back end ticket through corporate travel and left the d/h as is, with the intent of keeping the scheduled flt if necessary, and canceling the one I bought if necessary. When push came to shove and I actually decided to fly the scheduled d/h, I found out corporate travel already canceled it for me. Just doin' me a favor, ya know? Said it showed intent to deviate...
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Old 12-25-2009 | 06:02 PM
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Corp Travel says if your deviation ticket and scheduled ticket are on the same carrier, it can cause the airline to cancel one. It's happened to me. My schedule got canceled before I deviated. Maybe it's Corp travel doing it, I'm not sure.
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Old 12-25-2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by highflyer
In the past, I've bought a back end ticket through corporate travel and left the d/h as is, with the intent of keeping the scheduled flt if necessary, and canceling the one I bought if necessary. When push came to shove and I actually decided to fly the scheduled d/h, I found out corporate travel already canceled it for me. Just doin' me a favor, ya know? Said it showed intent to deviate...
I expect they will fix this "loop hole" soon, but if you use tripmanager they are not nearly as likely to cancel your scheduled ticket. In my experience, they always check to see if you are deviating if you talk to them. And they never check if you use tripmanager to book your ticket.
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Old 12-25-2009 | 07:24 PM
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So, let me see if I've got this straight...

You guys don't see anything wrong with not cancelling the scheduled backend deadhead, and then booking another one for yourself, as well?

And, you can do this because FDX has negotiated deals with most airlines that allow us to buy refundable tickets at a discount? Brilliant!!

How long do you think these airlines are going to be willing to absorb that lost revenue of you blocking their seats? Myself? I kind of enjoy having the option of legitably being able to change my deviation travel plans due to trip trades, drops or whatever. Please don't dork it up for the rest of us.
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Old 12-25-2009 | 07:49 PM
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First of all, if you got away with "anything" it was well within the contract...
Second, if you feel that you have been flighted, then contact your representation.
Period! submit your survey.
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Old 12-25-2009 | 07:57 PM
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Busboy,
The tickets are refundable - period. That means you can cancel them if your plans change. Until you know what your plans are, what's wrong with keeping options available?

There's no "lost revenue" due to "seat blocking". Airlines routinely over sell seats for this very reason. If no one changes their plans, mis-connects, misses their bus to the airport, then they buy a few pax off. You hear the nice gate agent offering volunteers who give up their seats for free tickets, FC seats on the next flight or whatever will get a few takers to thin out the herd on that flight. It's the cost of doing business and the airlines plan on it.

They don't care WHY someone changes or cancels a refundable ticket. So, it's okay to cancel a ticket because Fedex extends your pairing or some other operational reason?? But, if your secondary isn't what you thought it would be and you need to get back to "Mecca" on the scheduled DH instead of home like you planned, airline X is going to decide Fedex needs to take their business elsewhere??
Don't think so.
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