FDX Hlth Plan
01-14-2010, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuck
For the other posts - even if Fedex went to outside insurance we are nowhere near $23,000- we can ask our MEC Chair (former R&I chair) what the costing model was used for health benefits in CBA 2006 but I imagine it was under $10000 per pilot. Even the most expensive monthly premiums added to that put it way under $23000 but if it is not indexed then at some point our insurance could possibly fit the definition of a cadillac plan.
amount above $24,000 (latest deal) for a family.
I think we're very near that if you've got a wife and a couple or three kids...
There is supposedly some backroom deal going on that would exempt union
workers until 2017. We'll have to wait and see if our white collar union is
even considered a union by the Dems on the Hill.
01-14-2010, 01:42 PM
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And you guys aren't talking about the other taxes in this bill. Or how much Tricare is going to take it in the shorts. No one but Nancy, Harry and Rahm no what is in the bill our who they are going to stick it to. My guess is anybody who make $150K will be buying coverage for someone making under $75K.
01-14-2010, 03:13 PM
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More like anyone making over 75,000 will be financing the socialist giveaway to anyone making less than that. Everyone knows that lower tier doesn't pay anything now anyways. At least the emergency rooms will clear out with all those illegals ending up at my primary care docs waiting room. Heard ACORN is coming back to help out with the census to boost the rep numbers in all the wrong places. Even if we're not hit right away with the tax on our plan they will drop the "cadillac" level until they get enough money for the next big giveaway. I heard there was a proposal to exempt plans on a state by state basis in order to get enough votes for this thing and you know TN isn't on the short list for that. Also the exemptions for unions were leaning toward so called "blue-collar" unions, based on workers hourly rates, Like to see ALPA trying to get us in there with our contract pay rates.
01-14-2010, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuck
Wow - ironic here as you are spreading the bad misinformation (is that even a word?) - do you have herpes then?
1. Fedex is self-insured - we use Anthem as a processor. Most big companies of our size are self insured. Reference the email from the union about this today where they use the term "self-insured"
2. The current plan does affect Union plans. Big Union guys are trying to get Unions exempt, but for now it does include them.
For the other posts - even if Fedex went to outside insurance we are nowhere near $23,000- we can ask our MEC Chair (former R&I chair) what the costing model was used for health benefits in CBA 2006 but I imagine it was under $10000 per pilot. Even the most expensive monthly premiums added to that put it way under $23000 but if it is not indexed then at some point our insurance could possibly fit the definition of a cadillac plan.
1. Fedex is self-insured - we use Anthem as a processor. Most big companies of our size are self insured. Reference the email from the union about this today where they use the term "self-insured"
2. The current plan does affect Union plans. Big Union guys are trying to get Unions exempt, but for now it does include them.
For the other posts - even if Fedex went to outside insurance we are nowhere near $23,000- we can ask our MEC Chair (former R&I chair) what the costing model was used for health benefits in CBA 2006 but I imagine it was under $10000 per pilot. Even the most expensive monthly premiums added to that put it way under $23000 but if it is not indexed then at some point our insurance could possibly fit the definition of a cadillac plan.
01-14-2010, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky7
I heard there was a proposal to exempt plans on a state by state basis in order to get enough votes for this thing .
......Team Player
01-14-2010, 06:34 PM
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[quote=Tuck;744299]
2. The current plan does affect Union plans. Big Union guys are trying to get Unions exempt, but for now it does include them. END QUOTE
I just read this from an AP story...
In a significant victory for unions, the 40 percent excise tax would not apply to policies covering workers in collective bargaining agreements, state and local workers and members of voluntary employee benefit associations through Dec. 31, 2017.
2. The current plan does affect Union plans. Big Union guys are trying to get Unions exempt, but for now it does include them. END QUOTE
I just read this from an AP story...
In a significant victory for unions, the 40 percent excise tax would not apply to policies covering workers in collective bargaining agreements, state and local workers and members of voluntary employee benefit associations through Dec. 31, 2017.
01-14-2010, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
If you are an ALPA member, go here and let your Congressman/Senators know how you feel...takes 2 minutes to submit the form letter...longer to give them a real piece of your mind...
01-14-2010, 07:30 PM
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[QUOTE=HazCan;744510]
Well there you have it. No need to sweat it any longer - at least not until 2018 when I bet we won't have health care in our contract.
Originally Posted by Tuck
2. The current plan does affect Union plans. Big Union guys are trying to get Unions exempt, but for now it does include them. END QUOTE
I just read this from an AP story...
In a significant victory for unions, the 40 percent excise tax would not apply to policies covering workers in collective bargaining agreements, state and local workers and members of voluntary employee benefit associations through Dec. 31, 2017.
I just read this from an AP story...
In a significant victory for unions, the 40 percent excise tax would not apply to policies covering workers in collective bargaining agreements, state and local workers and members of voluntary employee benefit associations through Dec. 31, 2017.
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