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Old 02-05-2010 | 08:49 PM
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Old 02-06-2010 | 06:16 AM
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Great advertising? All I see is a free 777 charter that just put a big dent in our fuel sense savings. This won't open up the Chinese letter market that slammed shut on us after the government encouraged to invest heavily on our infrastructure. All multinational companies dislike working with the Chinese authorities as they change deals in midstream, are easily angered and vengeful. They've got some Australians in jail just because they're unhappy about a deal that went sour.

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Old 02-06-2010 | 06:26 AM
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They even did the 2 water spraying arches for the plane's departure!

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Honestly this makes me ill.

How can they claim they need to steal 20% of our pay then turn around and waste it with such wanton abandon.

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Old 02-06-2010 | 06:28 AM
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Or is that Won ton abandon?
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Old 02-06-2010 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by BooyaOhYeah
Or is that Won ton abandon?
I'm glad you picked up on what I was laying down
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Old 02-06-2010 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
Honestly this makes me ill.

How can they claim they need to steal 20% of our pay turn around and waste it with such wanton abandon.
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Old 02-06-2010 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 990Convair
You'll have to pardon me, I don't do this often, especially this large....

WHO FREAKING CARES!!!!!!!!

Why do I give a hoot about two Pandas flying in an EMPTY 777 15.5 hours on our dime when the company continues to rake the dough in via 4a2b?
Yeah, I can't help but think of all the fuel saved by delaying APU start, and crews freezing, or roasting in the cockpit, for the sake of Fuel Sense, that went out the tailpipe of that 777 on a 15 hour flight to China. Yeah, I'm gonna delay APU start till 20 min before departure, when it's freezing out.

I know, it's up to the crews to determine APU usage in various weather conditions. I just know that I have jumpseated enough to see crews sitting in the cockpit in their parkas, trying to keep warm, while saving fuel by delaying APU start. I don't get it, and I don't do it. I consider being too hot, or too cold, in the cockpit, to be a distraction, and therefore, a safety issue.

And yeah, such extravagance in the face of 4a2b abuse, is obscene.
But at least we keep getting the "pat on the back" letters to keep us happy.
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Old 02-06-2010 | 08:38 AM
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I don't know, but my sense is that one thing (the Fuel Sense initiative) has exactly nothing to do with flying Pandas over to China. For that matter, neither does delayed APU usage, or guys (being stupid enough to be) sitting in an ice cold or burning hot cockpit, just to save a few pounds of gas. I agree that saving fuel makes sense, but not at the expense of safety, or for that matter, the cost of electronic components that are operating without the benefit of conditioned air in their compartments. However, this Panda thing is a very good thing for FedEx because it continues to get the name out in front of the public, both ours as well as the Chinese. That cannot be a bad thing, and in my opinion, it's worth whatever it costs the company.

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Old 02-06-2010 | 08:44 AM
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Old 02-06-2010 | 08:50 AM
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Yeah, you're right. The company should just stop doing its business because you have to suffer with 20% less pay. It's a good thing that it's not all about you. However, you're right in that I'm not affected by 4a2b, so perhaps that frees me to take a less biased view of the overall situation, something that you clearly cannot do.

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