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MD10PLT 02-12-2010 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 763156)
Really? You got all that from my post?

That's simply amazing.


Yes I did. Quite simply, every time someone points out that the company isn't following the intent of the contract and is paying the junior guys well below (in hours) what all the others are getting, someone has to pipe up with the obligatory "you should be lucky to have a job" comment.

There is no doubt we all feel lucky to be at FedEx. However with contract negotiations coming up, how do you intend to build any unity with comments like yours. Thrust me the junior folks aren't following the Pied Piper anymore.

Pecan 02-12-2010 09:08 PM

That you Freud?
 

Originally Posted by MD10PLT (Post 763201)
Thrust me the junior folks...

I sure hope you meant to say "trust." Otherwise, this 4a2b thing is having some very adverse effects on your lifestyle. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

2cylinderdriver 02-13-2010 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by MD10PLT (Post 763201)
Yes I did. Quite simply, every time someone points out that the company isn't following the intent of the contract and is paying the junior guys well below (in hours) what all the others are getting, someone has to pipe up with the obligatory "you should be lucky to have a job" comment.

There is no doubt we all feel lucky to be at FedEx. However with contract negotiations coming up, how do you intend to build any unity with comments like yours. Thrust me the junior folks aren't following the Pied Piper anymore.

That is not true either, there are MANY senior people in the 727, in ALL seats that are getting the B scale shaft. The idea of shared sacrifice is noble, just not what is transpiring.

FDXLAG 02-13-2010 06:58 AM

The real question is how much would average blg been if "This month, the ATL, CVG & SMF HSTBY’s should be available for the Secondary Lines." had been added to the bid pack these last 4 months?

Don't get me wrong, I am glad they will be going to someone besides the open time um, um, um, "hawks". But that is a lot of hours that should have been included in avg blg.

Gunter 02-13-2010 08:37 AM

SIG notes says we have 7700 hrs in the 727 for March. Has it changed the last 6 months? I doubt it's gone up any.

41 hrs X 3 pairings X 4 weeks = 492 hrs.


Looks like a 6.3% increase in the line average.

Gunter 02-13-2010 08:45 AM

Delete Delete

FXDX 02-13-2010 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 763325)
The real question is how much would average blg been if "This month, the ATL, CVG & SMF HSTBY’s should be available for the Secondary Lines." had been added to the bid pack these last 4 months?

Don't get me wrong, I am glad they will be going to someone besides the open time um, um, um, "hawks". But that is a lot of hours that should have been included in avg blg.

Absolutely.

This is hopefully just the first step to having all this flying in the bidpack.

Small step, but progress none the less.

Busboy 02-13-2010 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by MD10PLT (Post 763201)
Yes I did. Quite simply, every time someone points out that the company isn't following the intent of the contract and is paying the junior guys well below (in hours) what all the others are getting, someone has to pipe up with the obligatory "you should be lucky to have a job" comment.

There is no doubt we all feel lucky to be at FedEx. However with contract negotiations coming up, how do you intend to build any unity with comments like yours. Thrust me the junior folks aren't following the Pied Piper anymore.


I'm not exactly sure what your problem is...I believe that our most junior crewmembers are fortunate to be getting a paycheck. Look around the industry. It's a fact. They are fortunate that our contract has 4A2b. Don't read any more into it, than that.

So, you think the company is being unfair to guys by not spreading out the BLGs evenly, right? Me too. The only problem with our thinking is that if the company was forced to artificially raise the 727 BLGs(buy up)...Don't you think that would put another log on the furlough fire?

I'm not so sure that our most junior crewmembers should be hoping we win the 4A2b greivance. Maybe by the time the arbitrator makes a ruling...There will be enough flying(in the bidpack) that it doesn't matter, anymore.

And as far as "thrusting" you. There isn't enough tequila in the world. Sorry.

You want to talk about unity? What does "the junior folks are not going to follow the Pied Piper anymore" mean? Who is the Pied Piper? Your block rep? The SPC? The MEC? What, are the junior guys going to be independent contractors?

Gunter 02-13-2010 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 763484)
I'm not exactly sure what your problem is...I believe that our most junior crewmembers are fortunate to be getting a paycheck.


Busboy,

What I'm hearing is you're quite satisfied the line averages on the MD11 and Bus have gone up considerably (Don't even mention the 777 and 757) but could care less about the bottom feeder 727 guys. That's some unity.

I feel so lucky to be here that I think we should give you a pay raise and dock everyone junior to you to pay for it. But wait, we're kinda doing that already.

You guys rock!

Auger In 02-13-2010 09:05 PM

[QUOTE=I believe that our most junior crewmembers are fortunate to be getting a paycheck. Look around the industry. It's a fact. They are fortunate that our contract has 4A2b.[/QUOTE]

Busboy,

Words fail me.


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