My over 60 captain
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Did this Captain embarrass himself by bragging about how much money he's making, yes. Talk about a "chip" on his shoulder.
I have proven my point.
I have proven my point.
Last edited by OffRoad5150; 02-17-2010 at 03:14 PM.
#95
Ummm.....hey LAG.....I know its not next Wednesday yet....but I'd like to prove a point too (if I may)
what the BLEEP is this 42GO guy talkin' 'bout? (other than he is 61 and has 4 more years to go - 42GO - until he's forced to retire) - but I digress...
here's my point (and, I believe, the original poster to this thread's as well):
Discretion (aka - judgment, SA, common courtesy, etc.) - use some (see definition below) - that's all - it's that simple...
Main Entry: dis·cre·tion
Pronunciation: \dis-ˈkre-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : the quality of being discreet : circumspection; especially : cautious reserve in speech
2 : ability to make responsible decisions
3 a : individual choice or judgment <left the decision to his discretion> b : power of free decision or latitude of choice within certain legal bounds <reached the age of discretion>
4 : the result of separating or distinguishing
what the BLEEP is this 42GO guy talkin' 'bout? (other than he is 61 and has 4 more years to go - 42GO - until he's forced to retire) - but I digress...
here's my point (and, I believe, the original poster to this thread's as well):
Discretion (aka - judgment, SA, common courtesy, etc.) - use some (see definition below) - that's all - it's that simple...
Main Entry: dis·cre·tion
Pronunciation: \dis-ˈkre-shən\
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : the quality of being discreet : circumspection; especially : cautious reserve in speech
2 : ability to make responsible decisions
3 a : individual choice or judgment <left the decision to his discretion> b : power of free decision or latitude of choice within certain legal bounds <reached the age of discretion>
4 : the result of separating or distinguishing
#96
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AFW MD11,
I fully agree with your comments. This thread really had nothing at all to do with an over 60 Captain, who said some really insensitive stuff. It had to do entirely with a Captain, who happened to be 60, saying some really insensitive stuff, to the other crewmember(s).
What is quite interesting (to me anyway) is how guys here have morphed this thread from one of an issue of both CRM as well as insensitivity, to one of guys, again, telling other guys what they should and should not be doing, based on their own bias. If someone wants to fly make-up-sick (for whatever reason), according to the contract, he's allowed to. It really doesn't matter if he's padding his sick bank, or trying to add monies to his retirement fund. After all, he lost those credit hours somewhere along the line, so isn't he entitled (g_d, I hate that word) to make them up. Personally, I never, never flew make-up-sick, but again, that's a personal decision.
JJ
I fully agree with your comments. This thread really had nothing at all to do with an over 60 Captain, who said some really insensitive stuff. It had to do entirely with a Captain, who happened to be 60, saying some really insensitive stuff, to the other crewmember(s).
What is quite interesting (to me anyway) is how guys here have morphed this thread from one of an issue of both CRM as well as insensitivity, to one of guys, again, telling other guys what they should and should not be doing, based on their own bias. If someone wants to fly make-up-sick (for whatever reason), according to the contract, he's allowed to. It really doesn't matter if he's padding his sick bank, or trying to add monies to his retirement fund. After all, he lost those credit hours somewhere along the line, so isn't he entitled (g_d, I hate that word) to make them up. Personally, I never, never flew make-up-sick, but again, that's a personal decision.
JJ
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I am sorry you were a little too circumspect. You will have to be a little more specific here. What should I have been discrete about? If you don't want to say it out loud just tell me the number of the post you objected too.
There is no way you could have objected to my saying that a trip usually becomes a Draft trip because the company has a lack of reserves.
I will go on the ASSumption that you are suggesting I should not mention that make up sick is only marginally different from regular make up if you have 686 hours in your make up bank. Because if you read the first post in this thread this statement is a little *deceitful: "Second, as far as I know flying a m/u sick doesn't go in his paycheck it is a flown trip to make up any sick leave he took.....this isn't money in his pocket on the 30th"
Because I imagine it a lot of ways 6 hours in your retirement account is more money in your pocket than 6 hours in todays paycheck. Especially for a WB Capt.
Adj.1.deceitful - intended to deceive; "deceitful advertising"; "fallacious testimony"; "smooth, shining, and deceitful as thin ice" - S.T.Coleridge; "a fraudulent scheme to escape paying taxes" fraudulent, fallacious
dishonest, dishonorable - deceptive or fraudulent; disposed to cheat or defraud or deceive
2.
deceitful - marked by deliberate deceptiveness especially by pretending one set of feelings and acting under the influence of another; "she was a deceitful scheming little thing"- Israel Zangwill; "a double-dealing double agent"; "a double-faced infernal traitor and schemer"- W.M.Thackeray double-dealing, double-tongued, duplicitous, two-faced, ambidextrous, Janus-faced, double-faced
dishonest, dishonorable - deceptive or fraudulent; disposed to cheat or defraud or deceive
There is no way you could have objected to my saying that a trip usually becomes a Draft trip because the company has a lack of reserves.
I will go on the ASSumption that you are suggesting I should not mention that make up sick is only marginally different from regular make up if you have 686 hours in your make up bank. Because if you read the first post in this thread this statement is a little *deceitful: "Second, as far as I know flying a m/u sick doesn't go in his paycheck it is a flown trip to make up any sick leave he took.....this isn't money in his pocket on the 30th"
Because I imagine it a lot of ways 6 hours in your retirement account is more money in your pocket than 6 hours in todays paycheck. Especially for a WB Capt.
Adj.1.deceitful - intended to deceive; "deceitful advertising"; "fallacious testimony"; "smooth, shining, and deceitful as thin ice" - S.T.Coleridge; "a fraudulent scheme to escape paying taxes" fraudulent, fallacious
dishonest, dishonorable - deceptive or fraudulent; disposed to cheat or defraud or deceive
2.
deceitful - marked by deliberate deceptiveness especially by pretending one set of feelings and acting under the influence of another; "she was a deceitful scheming little thing"- Israel Zangwill; "a double-dealing double agent"; "a double-faced infernal traitor and schemer"- W.M.Thackeray double-dealing, double-tongued, duplicitous, two-faced, ambidextrous, Janus-faced, double-faceddishonest, dishonorable - deceptive or fraudulent; disposed to cheat or defraud or deceive
#98
LAG....I didn't mean YOU, I meant the original captain who got debriefed (and/or everyone/anyone who feels the need to do what he did.)
see how this written communication never quite gets the correct point across?
sorry.
(unless your reply wasn't directed to me - since you didn't say who "you" was that you're writing to?? if not me, then never mind...)
see how this written communication never quite gets the correct point across?
sorry.
(unless your reply wasn't directed to me - since you didn't say who "you" was that you're writing to?? if not me, then never mind...)
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I "make embarrass" by mixing one too many beers with a rum and coke....and not checking what I type before hitting enter! 
"All your base are belong to us"...even better!

"All your base are belong to us"...even better!
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