FDR-CVR monitoriing for disciplinary actions
03-08-2010, 04:02 AM
#61
Contract 2021
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 777 - Both
Posts: 438
Originally Posted by HazCan
Does any of these sound like QOL issues?
Protecting Your Flying:
• ALPA stopped legislation that would have outsourced your flying to foreign airlines for delivering U.S. mail overseas.
• Through an all-out lobbying assault on Congress, ALPA blocked a 2006 DOT proposal that would have permitted foreign interests to control U.S. airlines.
Protecting Your Benefits:
• ALPA is lobbying for legislation that would allow pilots whose defined benefit plans had been terminated to receive, at age 60, the full PBGC benefit guarantee that is payable to others at 65.
• ALPA ensured that companies could not make unilateral changes to pilot contracts and benefits plans as a result of the increase in the retirement age to 65, saving your families millions of dollars.
• ALPA successfully supported extending unemployment benefits for furloughed airline workers following the economic downturn post-9/11.
• ALPA led a successful seven-year campaign to prohibit states from taxing former residents’ pension benefits—so-called “source taxation.”
• ALPA has stopped congressional attempts to tax your fringe benefits—including your airline pass privileges and employer-paid health care—countless times in the past 20 years.
Protecting You in the Workplace:
• ALPA persuaded Congress to require the TSA to move on expedited screening and crew access programs in the 9/11 Commission implementing bill, signed into law in August 2007.
• ALPA also led the effort to obtain legislation preventing the premature release of CVRs.
• ALPA killed many ill-conceived pilot-related proposals in Congress through the years, including:
o preventing the FAA from randomly reviewing CVRs and FDRs—a move intended to “improve cockpit discipline”;
o making pilot infractions of FARs subject to criminal penalties up to $25,000 and/or one year imprisonment;
o gutting the FAA/NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System.
• ALPA got Congress to remove the FAA from the Civil Penalties Program, giving pilots a fair process in pilot cases through the NTSB.
• ALPA has consistently fought legislative attempts to change the Railway Labor Act to favor management.
• ALPA blocked legislation by Senators McCain (R-AZ) and Lott (R-MS) to impose “baseball-style” binding arbitration during contract negotiations. This bill also would have eliminated the right to strike and diminished the role of the NMB in airline labor negotiations.
Protecting Your Flying:
• ALPA stopped legislation that would have outsourced your flying to foreign airlines for delivering U.S. mail overseas.
• Through an all-out lobbying assault on Congress, ALPA blocked a 2006 DOT proposal that would have permitted foreign interests to control U.S. airlines.
Protecting Your Benefits:
• ALPA is lobbying for legislation that would allow pilots whose defined benefit plans had been terminated to receive, at age 60, the full PBGC benefit guarantee that is payable to others at 65.
• ALPA ensured that companies could not make unilateral changes to pilot contracts and benefits plans as a result of the increase in the retirement age to 65, saving your families millions of dollars.
• ALPA successfully supported extending unemployment benefits for furloughed airline workers following the economic downturn post-9/11.
• ALPA led a successful seven-year campaign to prohibit states from taxing former residents’ pension benefits—so-called “source taxation.”
• ALPA has stopped congressional attempts to tax your fringe benefits—including your airline pass privileges and employer-paid health care—countless times in the past 20 years.
Protecting You in the Workplace:
• ALPA persuaded Congress to require the TSA to move on expedited screening and crew access programs in the 9/11 Commission implementing bill, signed into law in August 2007.
• ALPA also led the effort to obtain legislation preventing the premature release of CVRs.
• ALPA killed many ill-conceived pilot-related proposals in Congress through the years, including:
o preventing the FAA from randomly reviewing CVRs and FDRs—a move intended to “improve cockpit discipline”;
o making pilot infractions of FARs subject to criminal penalties up to $25,000 and/or one year imprisonment;
o gutting the FAA/NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System.
• ALPA got Congress to remove the FAA from the Civil Penalties Program, giving pilots a fair process in pilot cases through the NTSB.
• ALPA has consistently fought legislative attempts to change the Railway Labor Act to favor management.
• ALPA blocked legislation by Senators McCain (R-AZ) and Lott (R-MS) to impose “baseball-style” binding arbitration during contract negotiations. This bill also would have eliminated the right to strike and diminished the role of the NMB in airline labor negotiations.
03-08-2010, 05:35 AM
#62
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2006
Position: 767 FO
Posts: 8,047
I am not confused, Nancy is great for the teachers union, the government unions, the SEIU, Acorn, heck maybe even ALPA. Does not mean my over all quality of life is better with her hand on the throttle.
As far as God you would have to ask Him, let us know what He says. But for family country and union I know which two impact my quality of life over the other one. Sounds like you may have some confusion issues. But hey as I said in my 1st post you prioritize your decisions I will prioritize mine. I could care less what you decide, but just like your nanny state heros you insist I conform. Diversity, in all but thought, is our strength right?
As least ALPAPAC is no longer selling itself as the most bipartisan pro-labor PAC or whatever their previous claims used to be.
A little help with your definition please. Is it myopic if you agree with 90% and blow off the other 10% or if you agree with 10% and blow off the other 90%.
As far as God you would have to ask Him, let us know what He says. But for family country and union I know which two impact my quality of life over the other one. Sounds like you may have some confusion issues. But hey as I said in my 1st post you prioritize your decisions I will prioritize mine. I could care less what you decide, but just like your nanny state heros you insist I conform. Diversity, in all but thought, is our strength right?
As least ALPAPAC is no longer selling itself as the most bipartisan pro-labor PAC or whatever their previous claims used to be.
A little help with your definition please. Is it myopic if you agree with 90% and blow off the other 10% or if you agree with 10% and blow off the other 90%.
Last edited by FDXLAG; 03-08-2010 at 09:16 AM.
03-08-2010, 03:31 PM
#63
With The Resistance
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Posts: 6,191
I can only laugh. People used to carry a four leaf clover, a rabbits foot or some other amulet to bring them luck. Now it is paying their favorite congress critter for some magic spell. Unfortunately we have devolved over the decades to the sort of banana republic that demands payment for consideration.
When you get beyond the silly left/right argument and understand it isn't working, then we might all make a little progress. Don't feed the critters and flush the toilet after every term.
Most of us are old enough to stop believing in leprechauns and the easter bunny.
When you get beyond the silly left/right argument and understand it isn't working, then we might all make a little progress. Don't feed the critters and flush the toilet after every term.
Most of us are old enough to stop believing in leprechauns and the easter bunny.
03-08-2010, 06:35 PM
#68
Contract 2021
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: 777 - Both
Posts: 438
SEUI, ACORN, what the ...?
Originally Posted by FDXLAG
I am not confused, Nancy is great for the teachers union, the government unions, the SEIU, Acorn, heck maybe even ALPA. Does not mean my over all quality of life is better with her hand on the throttle.
How this turned into a God and Country or D. vs. R. diatribe, I'm not sure. FDXLAG I'm not telling you to do anything that would upset your sense of justice or whatever it is your going on about. I thought this was about sending a message to the Senators that are trying to force themselves into a debate with simplistic, pseudo fixes to appease the public about air safety.
I understand how the system works and how to get our message heard. Whether you like the way our political system works or not makes no difference to me. But the issue is important enough for me to help. I don't want to subvert the issue. LAG, Do you really think that this proposal to allow CVR conversations be used as an internal monitor to determine if disciplinary actions should be used against you is a good idea? I have an idea...lets go put a voice recorder in Sen DeMint's office and take a listen every once in a while.
Anyway, it's a stupid proposal and requires significant help to defeat it. By the overwhelming show of support on this forum they will be hearing from many rank and file pilots from across the U.S. that realize the significance of the issue.
03-08-2010, 06:55 PM
#69
With The Resistance
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Burning the Agitprop of the Apparat
Posts: 6,191
Originally Posted by FDX1
I have an idea...lets go put a voice recorder in Sen DeMint's office and take a listen every once in a while.
Anyway, it's a stupid proposal and requires significant help to defeat it. By the overwhelming show of support on this forum they will be hearing from many rank and file pilots from across the U.S. that realize the significance of the issue.
Anyway, it's a stupid proposal and requires significant help to defeat it. By the overwhelming show of support on this forum they will be hearing from many rank and file pilots from across the U.S. that realize the significance of the issue.
It is also apparent we need higher standards of background checks, employment verification, documentation-that sort of thing. It is for the children!
Not asking for anything special, just that we all be treated with equality.
Last edited by jungle; 03-08-2010 at 07:53 PM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
