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iarapilot 09-19-2010 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by TheBaron (Post 873066)
Coerced, pressured, bullied and threatened...but none were SENT.

That is what the first set of excess bids were all about. Thats what happens when it goes senior!

TheBaron 09-20-2010 01:07 AM


Originally Posted by iarapilot (Post 873103)
That is what the first set of excess bids were all about. Thats what happens when it goes senior!

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Like I think I said... no one was SENT. You can't be excessed to an FDA.

iarapilot 09-20-2010 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by TheBaron (Post 873109)
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Like I think I said... no one was SENT. You can't be excessed to an FDA.

I agree with you; that nobody was sent. My only point was that the reason for the first set of excess bids was to fill the R seat in HKG, IMO. I think we are in agreement.

TheBaron 09-20-2010 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by iarapilot (Post 873187)
I agree with you; that nobody was sent. My only point was that the reason for the first set of excess bids was to fill the R seat in HKG, IMO. I think we are in agreement.

Got it! I agree.

Is your avatar the beach at the Blue Rock? It's so tiny it's hard to tell.

iarapilot 09-21-2010 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by TheBaron (Post 873490)
Got it! I agree.

Is your avatar the beach at the Blue Rock? It's so tiny it's hard to tell.

No, 20 miles west, and off the coast, at Capones Island. A little cleaner!

threeholenut 10-14-2010 10:37 PM

is the 2700 monthly allowance in Hong Kong dollars or USD? If it's in USD, thats quite a large amount. Equates to about 21,600HKD. You could get some real NICE stuff for that money. 2700 HKD, don't count on getting anything in Kowloon. At 2700 HKD, DO count on pulling change out of your pocket.

Cujo 10-14-2010 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by threeholenut (Post 885143)
is the 2700 monthly allowance in Hong Kong dollars or USD? If it's in USD, thats quite a large amount. Equates to about 21,600HKD. You could get some real NICE stuff for that money. 2700 HKD, don't count on getting anything in Kowloon. At 2700 HKD, DO count on pulling change out of your pocket.

1 - yes, in US dollars.

2- REALLY? I guess you haven't been apartment hunting in HKG lately. My 700 sq/ft, 4-wall, 4th floor walk-up low rise is just under the $2700. Add utilities, cable and ANY additional QOL stuff (like furniture :eek:) and your over. Maybe I missed the smiley face :confused:

p.s. If you add a spouse and a couple of kids ... bring $$$

Yoda 10-14-2010 10:49 PM


Originally Posted by threeholenut (Post 885143)
is the 2700 monthly allowance in Hong Kong dollars or USD? If it's in USD, thats quite a large amount. Equates to about 21,600HKD. You could get some real NICE stuff for that money. 2700 HKD, don't count on getting anything in Kowloon. At 2700 HKD, DO count on pulling change out of your pocket.

Beat me to it!!!

threeholenut 10-15-2010 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo (Post 885144)
1 - yes, in US dollars.

2- REALLY? I guess you haven't been apartment hunting in HKG lately. My 700 sq/ft, 4-wall, 4th floor walk-up low rise is just under the $2700. Add utilities, cable and ANY additional QOL stuff (like furniture :eek:) and your over. Maybe I missed the smiley face :confused:

p.s. If you add a spouse and a couple of kids ... bring $$$

Try the "new towns", like Tung Chung. Very close to the airport and there are some seaview ones for only 9000HKD about (approx 1200 USD) , 700 sq/ft, furniture included (Seaview Crescent). No utilities inlcuded though. But yes, I will agree with you on the fact that adding a family really doesn't allow for 2700 to stretch very far.
Do you live in Kowloon or in Hong Kong Island? Lantau Island seems to be the newest and one of the cheaper ones.

skypine27 10-15-2010 07:51 AM

ThreeHolesInHisHead must be joking.

CX pilots now get 9200 USD a month in housing allowance alone. . This is entirely independent of their salary. It's simply what it costs to live in HK in some semblance to a western human being.

Yeah, Fedex pilots should have to live by the airport in TC for 2700.

Riiiiight.......

threeholenut 10-15-2010 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by skypine27 (Post 885262)
ThreeHolesInHisHead must be joking.

CX pilots now get 9200 USD a month in housing allowance alone. . This is entirely independent of their salary. It's simply what it costs to live in HK in some semblance to a western human being.

Yeah, Fedex pilots should have to live by the airport in TC for 2700.

Riiiiight.......

take it easy mate.....I was just offering a suggestion.

Perhaps I should keep my mouth shut now...

Huck 10-15-2010 09:51 AM

From APC:


CATHAY PACIFIC:

Housing allowance for HKG-based pilots only
This allowance may go to property purchased or rented in Hong Kong
2 types of allowances: (a) the cash housing allowance which is $14,000, $18,000 or 24,000 HKD (dependent on position and years of service, or the mortgage allowance, which is variable/fixed, currently at $5,800/mo.
Looks like $1800 - $3100 american, depending on seniority.

They do pay for 70-90% of private schooling though.

And don't forget, their pay tops out at about $220k american a year for senior captains, with no A fund.

threeholenut 10-15-2010 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by Huck (Post 885315)
From APC:



Looks like $1800 - $3100 american, depending on seniority.

They do pay for 70-90% of private schooling though.

And don't forget, their pay tops out at about $220k american a year for senior captains, with no A fund.

I thought they get 13th month pay?

MoonF18 10-15-2010 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Huck (Post 885315)
From APC:



Looks like $1800 - $3100 american, depending on seniority.

They do pay for 70-90% of private schooling though.

And don't forget, their pay tops out at about $220k american a year for senior captains, with no A fund.

If your saying that this is what cathay pilots recieve in housing allowance, then your data on the Mig is innacurate. It is, based on what my cathay friends tell me over here more like around $4000 USD to start and then it goes up to nearly 10,000 when you get senior.

threeholenut 10-15-2010 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by MoonF18 (Post 885448)
If your saying that this is what cathay pilots recieve in housing allowance, then your data on the Mig is innacurate. It is, based on what my cathay friends tell me over here more like around $4000 USD to start and then it goes up to nearly 10,000 when you get senior.

Whoa! 10,000 could land you a nice apartment on Victoria Peak!

MoonF18 10-15-2010 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by threeholenut (Post 885469)
Whoa! 10,000 could land you a nice apartment on Victoria Peak!

I probably should not round numbers here, the max is more like $8000 for the Cathay senior bubbas. $8,000 might get you a coat closet on Victoria peak, but thats the deal they have.

FR8Hauler 10-16-2010 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by skypine27 (Post 885262)
ThreeHolesInHisHead must be joking.

CX pilots now get 9200 USD a month in housing allowance alone. . This is entirely independent of their salary. It's simply what it costs to live in HK in some semblance to a western human being.

Yeah, Fedex pilots should have to live by the airport in TC for 2700.

Riiiiight.......

Tung Chung is like living at the approach end of EWR. YGTBSM!

skypine27 10-16-2010 01:00 AM

APC is DEAD wrong on CXs housing allowance numbers. Here is the accurate information, direct from a Cathay Pilot:

That info is partially correct....but they are only the "base rates"
SO:
Year 1-2 HK$14,000/mth
Year 2+ HK$18,000/mth

JFO and above.......
HK$24,000/mth

These are known as "base rates"...this is the amount you can take as cash in lieu of rental allowance, if you choose.

RENTING

As an SO, if you want to Rent, CX will pay HK$29,500 per month (US$3800)

FO:
Year 1-7 HK$59,000/mth (US$7600)
Year 8+ HK$75,900/mth (US$9800)

Capt:
HK$92,700/mth (US$11,900)

BUYING:

If you choose to buy a property in HK then CX will pay your mortgage at:
HK$59,000 - $63,000/mth (US$7600 - US$8100)

<end of his post>

A year 5 cathay widebody FO gets 7600 USD per month in housing allowance.

ryguy 10-16-2010 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by skypine27 (Post 885661)
APC is DEAD wrong on CXs housing allowance numbers. Here is the accurate information, direct from a Cathay Pilot:

That info is partially correct....but they are only the "base rates"
SO:
Year 1-2 HK$14,000/mth
Year 2+ HK$18,000/mth

JFO and above.......
HK$24,000/mth

These are known as "base rates"...this is the amount you can take as cash in lieu of rental allowance, if you choose.

RENTING

As an SO, if you want to Rent, CX will pay HK$29,500 per month (US$3800)

FO:
Year 1-7 HK$59,000/mth (US$7600)
Year 8+ HK$75,900/mth (US$9800)

Capt:
HK$92,700/mth (US$11,900)

BUYING:

If you choose to buy a property in HK then CX will pay your mortgage at:
HK$59,000 - $63,000/mth (US$7600 - US$8100)

<end of his post>

A year 5 cathay widebody FO gets 7600 USD per month in housing allowance.

I can confirm that your numbers are accurate, just double checked them now. Hope that clears things up a bit. The cash option is available should one decide they did not want to have to provide a lease or mortgage to the company.

gcsass 10-18-2010 05:08 AM

Hey, slap a purple and orange cover on that and I am in!! Lets shoot for that in the CBA.........


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