Guys:

On those long 13 to 14 HR trips, do you guys have double crews? I mean 2 captains and 2 FO's? They want us to fly 2 legs at UPS one of them has to be over 11 HRS and they want us to do it with 1 Captain and 3 Fo's. Do you guys so that at FDX?

Thanks for the responses.
Zoro

 

For the FDX guys, on those double crew flights, what rest facilities available to you? Bunks or just first class seats?

Zoro

 

One Captain, two or three F/Os

 

FAA Approved Crew Rest Area for over 12 hours. Less than 12 can be just seats.

 

When I was at Gemini we once did a midnight departure in Harare that left 3 hours late, fuel stopped in Lagos, offloaded at Amsterdam then flew empty to Brussels.

24 hours in a DC-10 with no augmentation, STARTING at midnight. (It was "optimistically" scheduled for 16 hours duty).

In the MD11 we used to do Miami - Manaus - Varicopas - Bogota - Miami with a double crew. You only worked two legs, but the rest legs were really too short to get more than a nap. Saw that one go to 30 hours of duty once. Again, starting about midnight.

 

Yeah, FAA approved crew rest area..... it is pretty shabby. But better than the futon/seat cushions/stuffed blankets-into-air-holes-on-the-floor we got going on the other planes. I even heard the good ole BC wanted the same facility on the A-380's- not the nice one that Airbus had for it. Airbus said no way.

I kinda like the long double crewed flight. You get a chunk of sleep.

 

I DO like the single longer leg for the rest enroute. Our bunks are luv-em or leave-em. I love them; quiet dark, but I don't really like the bunk idea, would rather have a separate sleeping area. Some of the women might not appreciate my farting and snoring, I know the guys don't!

All of our MD11s have the extending bunk area, covering up door L1 inflight. Our configuration is OK, but if there's anyone in the first class seats, it's a squeeze to get to the galley area.

The best part is we actually have a nice sized refridge onboard!

Our TA (if it passes) will allow double crewing with either 2 Captains and 2 FOs, or 1 Captain and 3 FOs. Lemme guess which combo the company will choose!?! The one thing that concerns me is a double crew can do two legs, as long as one of them is scheduled for at least 11 hours of block.

 

I though we had to have two crews on anything over 12???? I'm not sure, though, being a lowley Boeing type.

 

over 12 is 1 captain and 3 FO's. Under 12 is usually 1 CA/2FO. They are using CA's as RFO's again on the schedule due to shortage of FO's.

 

WE do........FAA mandated on legs over 12:00 block

FedEx mans it with 1 CAP and 3 FO's..........(usually)
All MD-11 FO's are typed rated.......so in the eyes of the FAA all are Capt qualified.......(For cruise CAPT duties)

They are short FO's again.........and the FO's seem to be enjoying their days off much more than the Training guys.....who are mostly Capts but dual qualified to occupy each seat.

Apparently this month the CAPT as RFO is back. Apparently It is cheaper to pay a CAPT $206/hr to heat the meals and make the coffee than to DRAFT a Training guy on his off day. Wouldn't surprise me to see some of the training guys flying as RFO since they are drafting them as FO stand ins