I believe he said "... if the new FAA Crew Rest rules were enacted today ... we'd be short 1000 pilots."

Dagnabit - there ya go throwin out facts to screw up a good rumor :rolleyes:

Anybody know how much notice is given for a class date? Do you still think it will be January? Thanks in advance for your help.

1. I had 3 days notice. 2. I wouldn't be suprised to see it happening "early" next year.
Good luck to you!
fbh

There was a guy in our class that had a -2 hour notice. Someone didn't show up that morning and they called him at the first break.

Jan is their plan --- for internal pilots (...professional instructors and corporate pilots who have fulfilled their committments to those departments).

I think those guys will have plenty of notice, because their managers have to backfill their slots.

External hiring from the "current pool" may not happen until Feb or even March --- and my guess is 2-4 weeks notice for those guys.

The real unkown is when will the meet-n-greets and interviews start again for pilots not in the current pool.

There will be a need for at least 90-100 new hire pilots next year.

In an almost identical situation (long hiring drought, Pro instructors well past completing commitment,) the 8 pros in my class had Thursday afternoon calls for a Monday class. They even asked if I could stop by hiring office on
Friday, because they could not get the offer letter to me by Fedex prior to class starting (prior to Fedex Saturday delivery service.)

The meet-n-greet is dead. Straight from O.

FDXLAG - thanks for the reply

Busdrivr - sorry my questions irritated you. I did do a search before asking my questions. The results varied between FedEx pilots dying 5 years after retirement, a long discussion on soylent green and a 2006 retirement schedule that doesn't make sense considering other post that FedEx has one of the oldest pilot groups in the industry.

He's retired now though! :)

Ok, then you know there will be meet-n-greets for sure. Oh wait, they're only cancelled during inclement weather, whatever that means.

Thanks everyone for your replies.

My next questions:

1. How long does 727 SO training take?

2. What are the schedules like? e.g. 4 on 3 off, 10 on, 4 off....

3. What is the going rate for crashpads?

Thanks again

About 2 months start work to on the line.

Week on week off, 3 on 4 off, or a string of 14 R days.

200-250 for 2 to a bedroom.

15 R days on a 4 week month...... 19 on a 5 week month....

727 SO Lines
 

And only a few reserve lines with 15/19 R-days in a row (most are ON-OFF-ON-OFF with varying combinations).

The october bid back for 727 s/o has approx 81 lines. Approx 25 of those have consecutive R-days in a row. The remaining lines are a mix of days off/on.

Being junior on the panel and bidding is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you are going to get.

and if you are lucky enough to get hired, you really wont care what your schedule is, until you are off probation anyways...... :D:D:D

Fantastic News!! Things seemed to have turned for you guys!

Good luck to those in the pool and those that soon hope to be!:eek:

That makes it hard to get a whole month of CIC! :)

I'm trying to get in touch with a Fedex pilot. Is there a standard email address like for example "[email protected]"? Appreciate the help. Thanks!

81 Reserve lines. 117 regular lines. 31 secondary lines.

Just for clarification.

App window to open in November. Hiring up to 230 in fiscal year 2011 to start training in January. Initial 30 internal, around 30 from previous pool leaving around 170 off the street. Last number adjustable due to fleet changes/retirements but still a positive number in the right direction. 727 school house preparing for flux

Source for this vision?

FedEx FY 2011 ends May 31st.

Kooky talk

How many pilots are usually in a class?

Thanks

Anywhere from 1 to about 25-30 depending on what is going on. A "typical" class might have about 16 (every 2 weeks). Of course it all depends on the sim scheduling and availability and such. When I was hired as an S/O in the 727. I went through with 15 other S/Os and some F/Os also. So that's why my class was about 25 people.

YMMV depending on what the company wants to do. The smaller classes were typically internal hires and were brought on the property in accordance with the completion of their contracted time. Of course that was all before we stopped hiring.

I hope this helps.

Thanks everyone for the great info.

What is a typical training schedule like?

Does crashpad life work while in training?

What recommendations would you make?

Thanks again.

Not much experience elsewhere but easiest training schedule you will ever have. However the 1st 727 S/O sim check is a real pain in the arse. Crash pad life works. You will get 3 days off in a row several times.

You will get a thousand different recommendations. It all depends on your situation. I prefer a Southaven MS crashpad. Most others will recomend collierville. Some even say downtown.

I thought you liked the Germantown Do Drop Inn.;)

So, the internal guys got letters from their bosses. Looks like the pros and corporate guys are in 4 month intervals starting in January.

One class in January, February, March, and April. That should be a total of 25 new guys...approximately. Good news!

Did hear from the instructors from the big meeting last week....

PC said something in the first meeting about hiring 150 in 2011. First 90 to back seat 727 and the next 60 to right seat 757.

Basic indoc is being rewritten to be about 14 days long. 10 days of FOM. They are preparing to hire right into the right seat. J Gorman apparently said that BI will include hotels for the new hires, they will try to get their family involved in the process and introduce the families to FedEx too.

Sounds like some big changes. Glad there will finally be some movement.

Nice to see you on the cargo forum. With all the Big D posts I would think you would be to busy to visit us. That place was great and the price was nice. But no walking access to Walmart. :)

Fiscal 2011 or calendar 2011? And only 25 guys hired by the end of April? Usually Fedex talks in Fiscal years.

Do you think poolies will get to go in these first few classes? I don't know how many internal pilots there are, but it sounds like small classes. Thanks everyone for all of the information.

I think it would be a violation of the internal guys contracts to hire outside folks first. It would only be internals the first few months. Of course, anything could happen but that could cause a huge stink.

Hiring is physical year 2011. Jan 1 - December 31.

What is a physical year?

Thanks for the fast response.

I would guess poolies will come in around May then. One other question. How is seniority determined in class? Is it age, last 4 of ssn, etc....

Thanks

Last 4 of your ssn, highest number is most senior.

Fedex's Fiscal year is from June 1st to May 31st. Soo 2011 fiscal year ends May 31st, 2011.

I meant to say calendar year...for some reason can't even spell fiscal. It's 150 in the calendar year 2011. Geez. I stink.