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Huck 10-31-2010 11:38 AM

Think of the FE written as good practice for becoming a FDX pilot.

I've got to keep current a China visa, an Indian visa, a Schengen visa, a US passport, a Class I medical, a radiation badge and a company ID that expires.

I've got two recurrent events a year, the Global War on Error yearly, CRM and Hazmat yearly, and web-based training yearly. About once a year we get some special one-time training via web or class (L-888, Flag Ops).

Then there's the FCIF's and Crew Notifications.

Very few are the months that I don't have something to do to stay current. So retaking an FE written is just good preparation for what is to come.

FdxPylot 10-31-2010 01:19 PM

Don't forget your Fox Expense reports Huck!!

DLax85 11-01-2010 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 893222)
Uhh....Don't show up to interview without it. Not having it is telling the interviewers you aren't serious and are hoping for a REAL airline job before you get called by FedEx.

Not having it is the wrong way to "stand out" in the interview. At least that's how it used to be.

Spot on!

...and if "O" does institute some type of "meet-n-greet" process prior to the actual interview have it done BEFORE that first meeting too.

I was specifically asked about the test and my score during the "meet-n-greet".

...had just completed it 2 days prior! :)

Jumbo Pilot 11-01-2010 04:02 PM

I heard from a Rep from "O's" office in an FO Course that the "Meet and Greets" were a dead issue.. not going to happen.. other than a process of checking in with those in the pool to see what they have been up to the last 3 years.. and to make sure they haven't spent any time in jail or any other troubles with the law or the Federales.

shamu 11-01-2010 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jumbo Pilot (Post 894463)
I heard from a Rep from "O's" office in an FO Course that the "Meet and Greets" were a dead issue.. not going to happen.. other than a process of checking in with those in the pool to see what they have been up to the last 3 years.. and to make sure they haven't spent any time in jail or any other troubles with the law or the Federales.

Is that just for the poolies or for new hires as well? Thanks!

Jumbo Pilot 11-02-2010 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by shamu (Post 894578)
Is that just for the poolies or for new hires as well? Thanks!

The word was... the only people that would have to come to Memphis and chat would be those in the pool.. to check in with them before bringing them on the property. And when we do open the window for new applications and interviews, the Meet and Greet would NOT be part of the process.

At least that is what was told to us in class.

SKMarz 11-02-2010 09:47 AM

OK, this might be a stupid question, but I'd rather try to make sure I have all my ducks in a row, just in case.

So here it goes...I have a flight engineer certificate that I got on the DC10 many years back. I only flew the sim, so my license lists the rating but says that the limitation is issued under and subject to FAA exemption 4901. It does not have an expiration date. To me, it looks like it meets the website qualifications "Current FE Turbojet Rating or written (FEX or Basic/turbojet)" but I wanted to me sure, just in case I'm lucky enough to get a call once the window opens again. If I should still take the written, that's what I'll do. Thanks for the input.

HumptyDumpty 11-02-2010 10:55 AM

No, you have a FE rating and ticket. You wouldn't even be allowed to take a test for a rating you already have.

The exemption will be removed after IOE here at FedEx.




Originally Posted by SKMarz (Post 894791)
OK, this might be a stupid question, but I'd rather try to make sure I have all my ducks in a row, just in case.

So here it goes...I have a flight engineer certificate that I got on the DC10 many years back. I only flew the sim, so my license lists the rating but says that the limitation is issued under and subject to FAA exemption 4901. It does not have an expiration date. To me, it looks like it meets the website qualifications "Current FE Turbojet Rating or written (FEX or Basic/turbojet)" but I wanted to me sure, just in case I'm lucky enough to get a call once the window opens again. If I should still take the written, that's what I'll do. Thanks for the input.


SKMarz 11-02-2010 12:19 PM

HD,

That's what I thought, but I wanted to double check.
I appreciate the response.

7700 11-05-2010 06:25 AM

Any new news on pro's/corp internal classes. Still Jan/Feb 727 SO? Just like to keep this thread going.

CloudSailor 11-05-2010 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Gunter (Post 892378)
Yep.

1) Hold an FO bid.

2) fill it with any current SOs that bid it, which should be very few, and pros.

3) Then start newhire classes and put the first classes into FO training. Most or all would go 757.

4) Put the rest of the newhires in 2011 into the SO seat.

The kicker is the 727 bidpack is going to get smaller in 2011. SO will be more of a revolving door than in the recent past.

Does it appear that HKG will be out of the question for the possible newhires in 2011?

Gunter 11-06-2010 01:27 AM

All I've heard about is possible newhires to 757 FO. That is a strong possibiity.

If they have a bid that generates openings in HKG before you arrive we may see one or two offers per newhire class until it gets filled. On a strictly volunteer basis of course.

HumptyDumpty 11-07-2010 03:37 PM

Actually, I would guess that some poolies (or new hires in 2011) will be sent to China if the seats are still open.

My understanding is that the internals were always told they have an option if it ever came to that. If none of them go and they want to fill seats....it's not beyond the scope of possibility that poolies or new hires would go straight to HKG.

There are too many variables to know....if the internals letters are true (starting in January) we only have about 55 days to wait.

PurpleCRJ 11-09-2010 01:30 AM

Can someone clarify the domicile situation for me? I see MEM, LAX, ANC, and HKG on APC there, but I've heard about other bases. Like is Guangzhou a pilot domicile? Also, ideally for me, I would like to be based in Oakland. Can pilots just pick up trips from there? Do you have to be based in LAX to do so? Can someone order the bases by seniority? And finally, which aircraft are flown out of each base? Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread. But if it's easy for someone, it would be awesome to throw that info out there. Thanks!

Adlerdriver 11-09-2010 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleCRJ (Post 898357)
Can someone clarify the domicile situation for me? I see MEM, LAX, ANC, and HKG on APC there, but I've heard about other bases. Like is Guangzhou a pilot domicile? Also, ideally for me, I would like to be based in Oakland. Can pilots just pick up trips from there? Do you have to be based in LAX to do so? Can someone order the bases by seniority? And finally, which aircraft are flown out of each base? Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread. But if it's easy for someone, it would be awesome to throw that info out there. Thanks!

Domiciles you listed are correct.
LAX and ANC are MD-11 bases. HKG is A300. MEM has everything (727, 757, A300, MD-11, 777).

For the -11, LAX is senior, then MEM, ANC is junior. You can only pickup trips in the domicile you are based.

HKG is the most junior base in the system.
Hong Kong is where most guys live. Their trips begin with ground trans or a DH flight to Guangzhou and then they operate out of there for their pairing. Some pairings may start with a DH elsewhere just like happens at other domiciles. Occasionally they also have pairings that start at HKG.

Dakota 11-09-2010 06:07 AM

"Can someone clarify the domicile situation for me? I see MEM, LAX, ANC, and HKG on APC there, but I've heard about other bases. Like is Guangzhou a pilot domicile? Also, ideally for me, I would like to be based in Oakland. Can pilots just pick up trips from there? Do you have to be based in LAX to do so? Can someone order the bases by seniority? And finally, which aircraft are flown out of each base? Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread. But if it's easy for someone, it would be awesome to throw that info out there. Thanks!"


Like, I wouldn't worry about it. Like, you're probably too young to get hired. Like, Oh My Gawwwwwd.

Goose17 11-09-2010 07:29 AM

PurpleCRJ,

Please feel free to ask any questions you have about FedEx. The majority of us will try to answer them to the best of our ability.

Goose17

Huck 11-09-2010 07:36 AM

I guess some of us were never young and just starting out.

FDXLAG 11-09-2010 09:51 AM

Yes you can live in Oakland and pick up trips from there. In this case you would most likely be Mem based and would pick up trips that start with a Deadhead from Memphis to Oakland. Seniority is required to make this happen.

Dpilot 11-09-2010 10:28 AM

Great info here. I live in the SF Bay Area, and would love OAK too. Or even SFO or SJC. How much seniority would be needed to get trips out of those airports (being based in MEM of course)?

Busboy 11-09-2010 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 898443)
"Can someone clarify the domicile situation for me? I see MEM, LAX, ANC, and HKG on APC there, but I've heard about other bases. Like is Guangzhou a pilot domicile? Also, ideally for me, I would like to be based in Oakland. Can pilots just pick up trips from there? Do you have to be based in LAX to do so? Can someone order the bases by seniority? And finally, which aircraft are flown out of each base? Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread. But if it's easy for someone, it would be awesome to throw that info out there. Thanks!"


Like, I wouldn't worry about it. Like, you're probably too young to get hired. Like, Oh My Gawwwwwd.

Dude!!! Chill!!

Busboy 11-09-2010 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Dpilot (Post 898616)
Great info here. I live in the SF Bay Area, and would love OAK too. Or even SFO or SJC. How much seniority would be needed to get trips out of those airports (being based in MEM of course)?

15yrs +/-.

MaydayMark 11-09-2010 12:54 PM

Poolies beware: More MEM honors
 
Front page to today's MEM newspaper ...

"The Bluff City ranked dead last in categories of intelligence, attractiveness, safety, romantic getaways, environmental friendliness, athleticism and pizza, according to the magazine's 2010 America's Favorite Cities survey."


Magazine poll ranks Memphis last in intelligence, attractiveness, first in barbecue The Commercial Appeal

Jetjok 11-09-2010 01:31 PM

Well, at least they've got that going for them.:D Now let's hear from all the home-boys who still say it's a wonderful town to both live in and raise a family. Of course, they really don't mean Memphis proper. But what the hey.

JJ

Overnitefr8 11-09-2010 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Dpilot (Post 898616)
Great info here. I live in the SF Bay Area, and would love OAK too. Or even SFO or SJC. How much seniority would be needed to get trips out of those airports (being based in MEM of course)?

Top 40% in any seat would be my guess. Even higher to hold it consistantly.

Hound 11-09-2010 03:37 PM

Purple CRJ,
Check your PM's. MOST of the folks on this forum want to help. H

shamu 11-09-2010 07:19 PM

So what about DH's to fly out of DFW or AFW? What airplane + base would be the quickest route? Thanks in advance guys!

PurpleCRJ 11-09-2010 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Dakota (Post 898443)
"Can someone clarify the domicile situation for me? I see MEM, LAX, ANC, and HKG on APC there, but I've heard about other bases. Like is Guangzhou a pilot domicile? Also, ideally for me, I would like to be based in Oakland. Can pilots just pick up trips from there? Do you have to be based in LAX to do so? Can someone order the bases by seniority? And finally, which aircraft are flown out of each base? Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread. But if it's easy for someone, it would be awesome to throw that info out there. Thanks!"


Like, I wouldn't worry about it. Like, you're probably too young to get hired. Like, Oh My Gawwwwwd.

This guy is probably prejudiced against Californians. Thanks for the support from the logical people.

hyperone 11-09-2010 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by shamu (Post 898941)
So what about DH's to fly out of DFW or AFW? What airplane + base would be the quickest route? Thanks in advance guys!

Guys, why are you worrying about this. Your cart is about 2 miles in front of your horse. Worry about getting the quals and contacts you'll need to get hired by Fedex or any other major first, then when and if you get hired, you can figure out the rest.
At Fedex, you can live just about anywhere and commute to wherever you are based. You'll more than likely be based in Memphis flying in the back of the 727 if you get hired.

shamu 11-09-2010 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by hyperone (Post 898949)
Guys, why are you worrying about this. Your cart is about 2 miles in front of your horse. Worry about getting the quals and contacts you'll need to get hired by Fedex or any other major first, then when and if you get hired, you can figure out the rest.
At Fedex, you can live just about anywhere and commute to wherever you are based. You'll more than likely be based in Memphis flying in the back of the 727 if you get hired.

Sure, point taken... So anyway, if you DID get hired...

FDXLAG 11-09-2010 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by shamu (Post 898956)
Sure, point taken... So anyway, if you DID get hired...

Right now the 727 is the best airplane in and out of AFW. Who knows in two years. The general point to understand (accept for hotel Stby) our commutable trips start somewhere else and fly into base. For example Tul currently has 3 double dead head trips a week with 1 each to MEM (Bus) AFW (727) and IND (727). All 3 trips are MEM based crews. Some trips are hard to predict as the hotel STBY in Fort Worth is probably real senior in the 727 S/O and Capt Seat and 50% in the right seat. It all depends on who you are competing with.

Goose17 11-10-2010 03:39 AM

Afw dfw
 

Originally Posted by shamu (Post 898956)
Sure, point taken... So anyway, if you DID get hired...

I'm a DFW area Bus FO that has been with the company going on 9 years... I am no where near holding the 2 lines each month that are DFW flying. The MD-11 guys that hold DFW are a lot more junior though. The only time there is AFW flying other than a hub turn through there is during peak. You might get a deadhead into or out of AFW. Also, there are no flights that connect MEM with AFW - but there are lots of flights that connect DFW to MEM as well as IND. The point the guys are making above is 1st just get hired. We have a very flexible system that allows you to live anywhere. You may not hold the flying into and out of your city, but you will have a commutable schedule very early on.

Goose17

Huck 11-10-2010 04:16 AM

Flying out of your hometown is like Sasquatch. Everybody's heard about it, but very few see it.

JethroFDX 11-10-2010 04:28 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleCRJ (Post 898947)
This guy is probably prejudiced against Californians.


He probably is because SFO just outlawed the prize the comes with a Happy Meal.:D

Nitefrater 11-10-2010 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by shamu (Post 898956)
Sure, point taken... So anyway, if you DID get hired...

If you did get hired, by the time you get senior enough to think about this, the system form will have changed a half dozen times and nothing said today on aircraft/frequencies/deadheads etc will be valid.

If you do get hired, the safest bet is to assume that you'll be moving or commuting to Memphis for the foreseeable future.

FedElta 11-10-2010 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Huck (Post 899008)
Flying out of your hometown is like Sasquatch. Everybody's heard about it, but very few see it.

Hey Huck,

I was easily able to fly out of my hometown ( ATL).......after 25 years.:D

shamu 11-10-2010 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by Nitefrater (Post 899019)
If you did get hired, by the time you get senior enough to think about this, the system form will have changed a half dozen times and nothing said today on aircraft/frequencies/deadheads etc will be valid.

If you do get hired, the safest bet is to assume that you'll be moving or commuting to Memphis for the foreseeable future.

Gulp... Well, I hear Memphis can be nice...

Thanks again! Here's to moving or commuting:D

JethroFDX 11-10-2010 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by shamu (Post 899070)
Gulp... Well, I hear Memphis can be nice...

Thanks again! Here's to moving or commuting:D


My advice is to just suck it up for a few years till some seniority is accrued and commute.

HumptyDumpty 11-10-2010 01:03 PM

Not to mention all the deadhead requirements the new proposed rest rules have in them. That could cause a lot of problems for the commuters/company? I just don't know which yet.

MEMFO4Ever 11-10-2010 01:18 PM

Stay senior on junior equipment and you will be MUCH happier in the long run. IMO


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