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frozenboxhauler 06-15-2011 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by N9373M (Post 1008762)

I hope they're Cheetos!!:o

Gunter 06-15-2011 04:04 PM

Our SCP did say the 777 guys are the big dogs now. They appear to be a coddled group that expects extra privileges. I predict they will be allowed to get away with this.

At least until the backlash from other crewmembers gets too much. But be careful. I'm sure they can't take their own medicine and will run to the ACPs for assistance.

MEMFO4Ever 06-15-2011 04:08 PM

Maybe they will be calmer once the company purchases the noise attenuating headsets for the 777's that they are currently considering.

It is not like we have ever had another loud airplane on the property before the 777. :rolleyes:

Looks like a widebody, it should pay llike a widebody. Not a penny more.

Gunter 06-15-2011 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by MEMFO4Ever (Post 1008864)
Maybe they will be calmer once the company purchases the noise attenuating headsets for the 777's that they are currently considering.

Exactly. The would be the only ones getting them.

FoxHunter 06-15-2011 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by HerkDriver (Post 1008733)
My friend was the pilot denied the seat.


What makes matters worse is that he had my freind's email address and cell phone number from his email requesting the ride, but this guy couldn't be bothered to let him know he was going to screw him until the day of the flight. Absolutely no consideration for a fellow crewmember...

Just curious how you know it was the Captain that objected to the extra guy? Many times in the past it was the F/O, RF2 or RFO. I would guess it would be best if all members of the crew are contacted prior to tying to jumpseat with a double crew.

Sound to me that some crewmembers have very little consideration for the working crewmembers. I would never even consider trying to ride on a double crew aircraft, but then I've been around long enough to know better.:D

FDX1 06-15-2011 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 1008890)
Just curious how you know it was the Captain that objected to the extra guy? Many times in the past it was the F/O, RF2 or RFO. I would guess it would be best if all members of the crew are contacted prior to tying to jumpseat with a double crew.

Last time I checked that was the Captain's responsibility.:eek:

finedavefine 06-15-2011 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by FDX1 (Post 1008897)
Last time I checked that was the Captain's responsibility.:eek:

Perhaps, but it's a good captain who discusses these types of issues with his or her crew, before making his decision.

FDX1 06-15-2011 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by finedavefine (Post 1008902)
Perhaps, but it's a good captain who discusses these types of issues with his or her crew, before making his decision.

Yah sure thats all good and CRM'EE, but if a FedEx pilot is denied a jumpseat on my plane its NOT the F/o's decision. Maybe you weren't around for the last round of jumpseat denial issues, but there weren't any F/O's or RFO's called in to talk to the VP Ops and CP.

FreightDawgyDog 06-15-2011 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 1008890)

Sound to me that some crewmembers have very little consideration for the working crewmembers. I would never even consider trying to ride on a double crew aircraft, but then I've been around long enough to know better.:D

Now I have really heard it all! FH lecturing anyone about about being considerate to others. So it's OK to demand you get an extra 5 years at the top after a full career, delaying others careers by those same 5 years, causing some to lose homes and families, and suffer great financial distress, but you would never jumpseat on a double crew aircraft? Save us any of your lectures about being considerate FH, you and your APAAD brethren proved long ago that greed is what drives you, not consideration for others.

Pakagecheck 06-15-2011 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by finedavefine (Post 1008902)
Perhaps, but it's a good captain who discusses these types of issues with his or her crew, before making his decision.

True, but it is also the good captain that would take the time to explain to the concerned f/o or rfo the importance of helping fellow crew members. Guess I have been lucky and haven't had a single f/o or RFO have an issue with a fellow pilot jumpseating.


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