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07-14-2011 | 10:56 AM
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I disagree. We have a lot more fluffy safety lectures (GWOE) and lip service for sure. However, I have seen a drastic increase in clock swaps and multiple legs after the sort in the last year. Prior to this year, I can't remember when I've done multiple legs after the sort. I am worthless on that second leg. Unfortunately my juniority keeps me flying the ones I can't trade. Just rolling the dice.
As someone alluded to before, the real issue is meaningful fatigue mitigation. Unfortunately that costs real money and turning down the optimizer. It will never happen here.
As someone alluded to before, the real issue is meaningful fatigue mitigation. Unfortunately that costs real money and turning down the optimizer. It will never happen here.
Look guys/gals -- it's JULY! We are short in most seats in a time of year that usually results in average loads systemwide. Granted, getting guys to give up vacation in ANC just ain't happening and that has been a regular event for the last several years. There are more vacation slots in the summer so it's a product of our vacation system for the most part. HOWEVER, I would argue that if we're in this level of a staffing shortage now in July, what's going to happen starting in Oct, then Nov, then peak (which JB alluded to in his letter).
And back to the post and my agreement...... turning DOWN the sodomizer in THIS environment ain't gonna happen. Arguing semantics, it doesn't "cost us money," rather it's money to be earned and opportunities lost.
07-14-2011 | 06:40 PM
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If you want to see FDX fatigue mitigation in action, watch the bidpack in the 757 each month. As they add airframes and cities, they add scheduling options. City purity goes away, layovers get shorter, clock swaps become more frequent, and legs are added to duty periods.
There is revenue management, not fatigue management.
Until this company can manage to buy enough recliners so that those who want to rest during a hub turn have that option (including those starting/finishing trips), I cannot take them seriously on this issue.
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There is revenue management, not fatigue management.
Until this company can manage to buy enough recliners so that those who want to rest during a hub turn have that option (including those starting/finishing trips), I cannot take them seriously on this issue.
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07-14-2011 | 06:48 PM
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If you want to see FDX fatigue mitigation in action, watch the bidpack in the 757 each month. As they add airframes and cities, they add scheduling options. City purity goes away, layovers get shorter, clock swaps become more frequent, and legs are added to duty periods.
There is revenue management, not fatigue management.
Until this company can manage to buy enough recliners so that those who want to rest during a hub turn have that option (including those starting/finishing trips), I cannot take them seriously on this issue.
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There is revenue management, not fatigue management.
Until this company can manage to buy enough recliners so that those who want to rest during a hub turn have that option (including those starting/finishing trips), I cannot take them seriously on this issue.
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07-14-2011 | 08:03 PM
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The schedules at Fedex have gone to complete hell in the last 3.5 years. The scheduling side letter of agreement in the previous contract decimated the bidpack.
When I was hired in the late 90's most mexico and west coast am pairings were with a 36 hour layover. The layover times have beed drastically reduced in the last ten to 15 years.
When I was hired in the late 90's most mexico and west coast am pairings were with a 36 hour layover. The layover times have beed drastically reduced in the last ten to 15 years.
07-15-2011 | 03:45 AM
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That was my exact point. We spend millions on gwoe and fancy magazines but until the schedules show an honest atempt to ease fatigue I will not believe safety is the #1 priority. Until every out station has a crew room with recliners the company cannot be taken seriously about safety.
Moving packages is (and has ALWAYS BEEN) the #1 priority ... and it might seem like we should be able to do that safely?
07-15-2011 | 08:12 AM
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That was my exact point. We spend millions on gwoe and fancy magazines but until the schedules show an honest atempt to ease fatigue I will not believe safety is the #1 priority. Until every out station has a crew room with recliners the company cannot be taken seriously about safety.
At times we as pilots are handed assignments that should have been addressed before we were given it. Here is a hypothetical scenario. Does a pilot accept an assignment, is involved in an incident, which results in not have a glass of water at their end of the table during the inquiry? Or do they refuse the assignment and be at the same table with no glass of water for just saying no?
It's a double edge sword.
07-15-2011 | 08:17 AM
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