UPS seniority Distribution
 

Can anyone provide me a breakout of the age vs. seniority of UPS pilots?

Inre retirements?

all of these are approximates.

30=2640
35=2400
40=1900
45=1400
50=950
55=900
60=500
65=330
70=300
75=400

Seniority
 

Here is the progression of a crewmwmber hired one year ago at age 35 (Assuming that people retire at age 60)

Year Seniority
2006 2466
2007 2379
2008 2305
2009 2247
2010 2196
2011 2148
2012 2081
2013 2021
2014 1951
2015 1854
2016 1758
2017 1678
2018 1577
2019 1457
2020 1326
2021 1182
2022 1013
2023 857
2024 697
2025 557
2026 440
2027 330
2028 251
2029 177
2030 132
:D

What is the likely progression of a 41 year old new hire in terms of overall seniority? What about expected time to Capt? I'm contemplating making the jump from AA.

seniority
 

DayvsNight...

Who cares about your overall seniority...you would be on the list and making more your second year here in the right seat than you will ever make at AA. You can look at the retirements and the growth only, but the guys that got here 9/6/2001 (last pre 9/11 class) were happy campers to have a job, even if they were on the panel for a few years longer than normal.

We have several guys who have already quit AA to come over here. You can ask them (I'm sure you can get their names) how they like it over here.

JMO

Pilot7576

cpt time
 

DayvsNight...

Figure capt in about ten years...mileage may vary...we have some 8 yr cpts for the new ANC domicile...

Pilot7576

Every dog has his day
 

That's a pretty arrogant statement from a pilot who's total time on the top of the heap can be measured in weeks. :rolleyes: Things charge fast in aviation, for better and worst. AA and the rest of the legacy carriers have an institutional memory of the pay, benefits and QOL they used to have. If these airlines produce profits over the next few years, look for a hard charge for (some) restoration of the good times. Than maybe UPS (night) hub turns won't look so inviting.;)

APC,

Did UPS hire much since 9/11. I know they have a few classes going on now. Any others of descent numbers in the past few years.

Thanks, Fish

No hiring from 9/11/01 until 11/04

Numbers by year-
2004=32
2005=236
2007=92 with future classes bringing that total to approx. 148 total.