DD, if you change your status to "casual", none of your time counts, and the clock will start again when you go back to permanent part-time or full-time status. Sorry if this pokes a hole into any plans.
Best regards,
fbh,

p.s. feel free to private message me if I can be of any help.
p.s.s. last time I heard, it was a 1 year in position lock before you could internally apply.

 

I'll shut up now....

 

Double D,

Let it go and focus on being professional. Filling your mind with concern about what other people think will only take you out of your "A game" on the day that you need it the most--when you are flying or even worse on the day you interview.

I have an Academy classmate who once told me that I would not believe what some my fellow Fedex pilots say when they think they are in the presence of a like minded white male. Toughen up and focus on the task at hand. Get your flight time(1000 PIC in an appropriate aircraft), network, and prepare for your interview.

Compartmentalize, that's what pilot do.

Fedex and UPS are the best deals going. Don't let anything or anyone get between you and your goal--the Fedex paycheck. Simply put these are the only games in town. You won't change the minds of those who think you are undeserving. But, you can live with the comfort of knowing that most of those people who worry about how you got your job lack the ambition and creativity to be much more than speed bumps if you are committed to your goals.

"Man up" if you are a man. If you are not a man then "Man up" anyway. If you wan't a real problem add a Muslim sirname. Or, even better try being a naturalized Muslim trying to get hired in this market. There are a lot of people who would trade with you also. By the way, if it gets the mortgage paid, i'll pull gear for a "Grand Dragon" as long as he is standardized.

 

Jax,
I hear you loud and clear. Trust me, you don't survive 20 plus years in the Corps by letting the naysayers get to you and I definitely know how to man up. That said, I disagree with pulling gear for a "grand dragon". You have to be true to yourself.

DD

 

p.s. feel free to private message me if I can be of any help.
p.s.s. last time I heard, it was a 1 year in position lock before you could internally apply.[/QUOTE]

FBH
I can't send PMs yet.

DD

 

DD,

Your screen name "DD" alone entitles you to "pull gear" for me anytime ... That said, you'd be (and so would anyone else looking for an "airline" job these days) extremely fortunate to get a job at FedEx. If I were you, I'd volunteer to "pull gear" and buy beer should you be one of the lucky ones to find yourself employed at a company that will likely be around when you retire.

Regards,


Mark

 

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It is a "JOB" not a social experiment, higher moral calling, political referendum or anything else that has to do with being true to yourself. The only person you hurt by objecting to flying with the hypothetical "Grand Dragon" is yourself. He still has his 200K+ a year job you've done just what he wanted by bidding out his way, calling in sick, etc... We do not live in a perfect world. But, in todays world, eventually his actions and judgments will be evaluated by others based upon "the content of his character" and so will you. Also, by avoiding flying with him you've missed out on an opportunity, possibly a two week captive audience opportunity to change some of his views or add another "Exception" to his list.

Good luck and I do believe that it is one year to apply for internal job transitions. Also, if you get your interview through internal channels then you need to double your preparation efforts because you will not have had the tuning up interview prep process that goes along with getting a M&G. This job can pay for a fat mortgage and people are bringing their best to get it. Remember that! Contact some corp buddies who fly for us and get some recommendations. Even if you are an internal you are going to look pretty naked on the other end of the interview table if you have 20 years in the corp without some. Continue to learn the Fedex pilot corporate culture and figure out where you fit into it positively.

 

Double D, I have been involved in the hiring process at FedEx for the past 3+ years and I can say that skin color will not get you a job. Plain and simple, you earn the interview at FedEx. I have had guys come to me with a candidate and say "hey man, he's a minority, we really need to hire him.", My first response is to tell him that FedEx has no problems defending their minority hiring practices to anyone. I think if you look at the overall numbers you'll probably find we have done areal good job without even trying. We have done this by, for the most part, hiring the most qualified folks regardless of their "status." I will admit that in the past we have hired females that did not met the mins, but that was rammed down our throats by the HR folks. They basically told flight ops that if we wanted to maintain control of the system we had to play by their rules. So to keep the reins, we acquiesced. I can remember sitting in a bar on a layover with my SO and having her tell me she had "no qualifying PIC time." She got a call from CS inviting her to an interview. I thought she was bull****ting me, but she was right. So rest assured, if you get hired at FedEx it will be becasue you belong, you earned it, and I really think the days of "tokenism" are gone. Atleast from where I sit anyway....

 

Thanks for the reply. I believe you that FedEx is not hiring "tokens". I see this based on the few aircrew that I interact with on the ramp. My concern was that minorities were being automatically assumed to be hired based upon a quota system rather than on their merits. I am including women in the group also because I heard the jokes about one of my fellow officers when I was in my past squadron and I can tell you that she was hands down one of the top ten fighter pilots for her rank and experience level.

The sheer magnitude of hoops that have to be jumped through to get an interview would tell most that you have to know your stuff to be a FedEx pilot but yet to read the posts, it appeared that everyone was being painted with the same brush. That is what disappointed me. I am still proud to be a part time FedEx employee and still plan to work my way up to the flight deck in the next couple of years.