Fedex regrets leaving Subic Bay?
12-19-2011, 04:57 PM
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I think this is a case that FedEx pilots regret leaving SFS more than FedEx regrets leaving SFS. Most of the initial problems with CAN have been resolved and it operates a lot more smoothly...still issues but definitely improving. I seriously doubt we'll ever see anything in the Philippines that will get us good layovers again.
12-19-2011, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBaron
I think this is a case that FedEx pilots regret leaving SFS more than FedEx regrets leaving SFS. Most of the initial problems with CAN have been resolved and it operates a lot more smoothly...still issues but definitely improving. I seriously doubt we'll ever see anything in the Philippines that will get us good layovers again.
Correct. Management at FedEx will only regret leaving SFS if it affects their yearly bonus.
12-19-2011, 09:08 PM
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I've also heard a rumor that says that our bonehead MEM lawyers didn't see the part of the contract where the Chinese inserted language that specified that FDX turns over the entire facility and all capital improvements should they ever leave GZ. That means the "state of the art" sorting equipment, computers and software all go to the Chinese, along with the building.
Hmmmmm..... now let's take a look at what Chinese national airline also happens to be based in GZ and is standing up a cargo operation...... Can you spell "China Southern????"
It's unfortunate that the MEM lawyers and others there decided that the input from people living in Asia and/or flying to China on a regular basis were so ignorant on matters relating to contracts with China or Chinese entities. The input from those in the know was politely set aside by those with advanced law degrees from prestigious US schools.
It also seems that UPS was "Shanghaied" by the Chinese after they build their hub in Shanghai, and "Shenzhenied" when they set up the new one in Shenzhen.
It really is a shame that someone that graduates from Harvard, Yale, or any other law school would be so shamefully dedicated to ignoring the input from those that are in China on a very regular basis. Seems like they were just too busy looking at the Chinese fire drill than to actually pore over the contract and it's contents to protect their employer's interest. The fell, lock, stock and barrel for the typical Chinese bait and switch.
How does the Singapore "mini-hub" fit into the scheme?
Hmmmmm..... now let's take a look at what Chinese national airline also happens to be based in GZ and is standing up a cargo operation...... Can you spell "China Southern????"
It's unfortunate that the MEM lawyers and others there decided that the input from people living in Asia and/or flying to China on a regular basis were so ignorant on matters relating to contracts with China or Chinese entities. The input from those in the know was politely set aside by those with advanced law degrees from prestigious US schools.
It also seems that UPS was "Shanghaied" by the Chinese after they build their hub in Shanghai, and "Shenzhenied" when they set up the new one in Shenzhen.
It really is a shame that someone that graduates from Harvard, Yale, or any other law school would be so shamefully dedicated to ignoring the input from those that are in China on a very regular basis. Seems like they were just too busy looking at the Chinese fire drill than to actually pore over the contract and it's contents to protect their employer's interest. The fell, lock, stock and barrel for the typical Chinese bait and switch.
How does the Singapore "mini-hub" fit into the scheme?
12-20-2011, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Perm11FO
I've also heard a rumor that says that our bonehead MEM lawyers didn't see the part of the contract where the Chinese inserted language that specified that FDX turns over the entire facility and all capital improvements should they ever leave GZ. That means the "state of the art" sorting equipment, computers and software all go to the Chinese, along with the building.
Hmmmmm..... now let's take a look at what Chinese national airline also happens to be based in GZ and is standing up a cargo operation...... Can you spell "China Southern????"
It's unfortunate that the MEM lawyers and others there decided that the input from people living in Asia and/or flying to China on a regular basis were so ignorant on matters relating to contracts with China or Chinese entities. The input from those in the know was politely set aside by those with advanced law degrees from prestigious US schools.
It also seems that UPS was "Shanghaied" by the Chinese after they build their hub in Shanghai, and "Shenzhenied" when they set up the new one in Shenzhen.
It really is a shame that someone that graduates from Harvard, Yale, or any other law school would be so shamefully dedicated to ignoring the input from those that are in China on a very regular basis. Seems like they were just too busy looking at the Chinese fire drill than to actually pore over the contract and it's contents to protect their employer's interest. The fell, lock, stock and barrel for the typical Chinese bait and switch.
How does the Singapore "mini-hub" fit into the scheme?
Hmmmmm..... now let's take a look at what Chinese national airline also happens to be based in GZ and is standing up a cargo operation...... Can you spell "China Southern????"
It's unfortunate that the MEM lawyers and others there decided that the input from people living in Asia and/or flying to China on a regular basis were so ignorant on matters relating to contracts with China or Chinese entities. The input from those in the know was politely set aside by those with advanced law degrees from prestigious US schools.
It also seems that UPS was "Shanghaied" by the Chinese after they build their hub in Shanghai, and "Shenzhenied" when they set up the new one in Shenzhen.
It really is a shame that someone that graduates from Harvard, Yale, or any other law school would be so shamefully dedicated to ignoring the input from those that are in China on a very regular basis. Seems like they were just too busy looking at the Chinese fire drill than to actually pore over the contract and it's contents to protect their employer's interest. The fell, lock, stock and barrel for the typical Chinese bait and switch.
How does the Singapore "mini-hub" fit into the scheme?
You honestly believe that?
12-20-2011, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Rider
Ok, can you give some examples?
12-20-2011, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 742Dash
With all due respect, if you think that there is not a massive, systemic problem with IP loss in China you need evaluate your news sources.
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