JLs FO LETTER
 

how did u like JLs letter bashing the FOs...disgraceful!...he talks about all the incidents and accidents..but i remember a couple years ago he dropped a bus gear into the dirt while taxiing..with an lca in the right seat...nice!

This letter just proves the point that I have always made aobut Fedex.

If they just got rid of the pilots, this would be a smooth running airline!

Care to elaborate for us outsiders? Inquiring minds want to know... :D

Supposedly Fred had a lot of mgmt and stds folks over at his office recently wondering why -11 guys are wrecking jets. I guess the "captain diatrabe" and "f/o missive" letters are a response to that "meeting"

Lewis was on the bus?

Can't believe he'd ***** about RFOs and landings. Why doesn't FedEx redo trips so guys can't go months without landings? The trips are just too good to pass up.

bus...11...one of them

Yea I don't think Lewis ever flew the chick machine. I think what you are talking about was a Bus but wasn't Lewis, but it had two Mgmt guys in it.

I hate to admit it but he is right to a certain degree. However, if the system is broke don't ***** at us, they need to get with ALPA and fix the lines. If I am a commutter and I am faced with a double deadhead RFO trip to Europe or Asia single departure line versus a 2 departure no deadhead LAX-AFW am out and back flying line in the LAX bid pack, guess what I am going to pick...They need to mix up the lines a little more. Throw in a good short flying trip along with the RFO trips. Senior guys will bid them then. They are not going to punish themselves flying hubturns if they don't have to.

To some degree I agree with JL too but since we don't have an "up or out" policy I don't really see the point in his missive other than the standard "crap rolls downhill." Guys are not forced out of the seat, they enjoy the comforts of single-digit seniority, they get called for VLT/DRF often..... heck, sounds good to me!

If you keep bumping up against landings or yam up a checkride, YOYO baby. Currently, I'm on notice but it's for vacation followed by a SWEET long HNL/SYD RFO layover. I bid this next sequence so I could get 4 landings like FR8Hauler mentioned above.

I like the big boy philosophy: you know what you're doing by bidding these lines; don't b*tch when you get debriefed by Standards, either out of the sim or on a line check.

He seems a little over the top in both letters to me.

Let me see what the Enders Report says about our saftey culture and then I will be ready to point fingers.

I think there is a much more to the accidents than Jack says is the cause. The EWR guys might have a thing or two to say about the airplane it self, why does the gear break on our MD-10s, no excuse, but TLH has a pretty big fatigue cloud hanging over it.

Jack does not impress me much.

Which is it, should I down bid because I don't want to have the responsibility of Captain, or should I bid Captain and stop flying the gravy RFO lines?