JLs FO LETTER
10-11-2006 | 08:36 AM
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JLs FO LETTER
how did u like JLs letter bashing the FOs...disgraceful!...he talks about all the incidents and accidents..but i remember a couple years ago he dropped a bus gear into the dirt while taxiing..with an lca in the right seat...nice!
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10-11-2006 | 10:38 AM
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Supposedly Fred had a lot of mgmt and stds folks over at his office recently wondering why -11 guys are wrecking jets. I guess the "captain diatrabe" and "f/o missive" letters are a response to that "meeting"
10-11-2006 | 11:03 AM
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Can't believe he'd ***** about RFOs and landings. Why doesn't FedEx redo trips so guys can't go months without landings? The trips are just too good to pass up.
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10-11-2006 | 11:40 AM
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10-11-2006 | 11:51 AM
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I hate to admit it but he is right to a certain degree. However, if the system is broke don't ***** at us, they need to get with ALPA and fix the lines. If I am a commutter and I am faced with a double deadhead RFO trip to Europe or Asia single departure line versus a 2 departure no deadhead LAX-AFW am out and back flying line in the LAX bid pack, guess what I am going to pick...They need to mix up the lines a little more. Throw in a good short flying trip along with the RFO trips. Senior guys will bid them then. They are not going to punish themselves flying hubturns if they don't have to.
10-11-2006 | 12:10 PM
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To some degree I agree with JL too but since we don't have an "up or out" policy I don't really see the point in his missive other than the standard "crap rolls downhill." Guys are not forced out of the seat, they enjoy the comforts of single-digit seniority, they get called for VLT/DRF often..... heck, sounds good to me!
If you keep bumping up against landings or yam up a checkride, YOYO baby. Currently, I'm on notice but it's for vacation followed by a SWEET long HNL/SYD RFO layover. I bid this next sequence so I could get 4 landings like FR8Hauler mentioned above.
I like the big boy philosophy: you know what you're doing by bidding these lines; don't b*tch when you get debriefed by Standards, either out of the sim or on a line check.
If you keep bumping up against landings or yam up a checkride, YOYO baby. Currently, I'm on notice but it's for vacation followed by a SWEET long HNL/SYD RFO layover. I bid this next sequence so I could get 4 landings like FR8Hauler mentioned above.
I like the big boy philosophy: you know what you're doing by bidding these lines; don't b*tch when you get debriefed by Standards, either out of the sim or on a line check.
10-11-2006 | 12:42 PM
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He seems a little over the top in both letters to me.
Let me see what the Enders Report says about our saftey culture and then I will be ready to point fingers.
I think there is a much more to the accidents than Jack says is the cause. The EWR guys might have a thing or two to say about the airplane it self, why does the gear break on our MD-10s, no excuse, but TLH has a pretty big fatigue cloud hanging over it.
Jack does not impress me much.
Which is it, should I down bid because I don't want to have the responsibility of Captain, or should I bid Captain and stop flying the gravy RFO lines?
Let me see what the Enders Report says about our saftey culture and then I will be ready to point fingers.
I think there is a much more to the accidents than Jack says is the cause. The EWR guys might have a thing or two to say about the airplane it self, why does the gear break on our MD-10s, no excuse, but TLH has a pretty big fatigue cloud hanging over it.
Jack does not impress me much.
Which is it, should I down bid because I don't want to have the responsibility of Captain, or should I bid Captain and stop flying the gravy RFO lines?
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