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Old 02-10-2012 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
Only if you're COMPLETELY ignorant of what Marxism is.

Not the case.
Old 02-10-2012 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MaxKts
That was after the right changed their position on Nov. 29. Before that...They were against any Soc. Sec. tax cut extension.
Old 02-10-2012 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
That was after the right changed their position on Nov. 29. Before that...They were against any payroll tax cut extension.
Spin it all you like, the undeniable truth is that both sides use our money to play their game with almost zero accountability and zero benefit.

Playing sides in this matter has proven over time to be a complete waste.
Old 02-10-2012 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle
Spin it all you like, the undeniable truth is that both sides use our money to play their game with almost zero accountability and zero benefit.

Playing sides in this matter has proven over time to be a complete waste.
But it is part of the divide/conquer dialectic. And it works so well!
Old 02-10-2012 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
I can't leave it at that...

The basic reason for the recapture is that the 2% break is only for money earned the first two months of the year. Soc. Sec withholdings are still stopped when the taxpayer reaches the $110,000 limit. Without the recapture, high income earners would possibly gain a tax advantage over those that do not earn over $110,000/yr.

Most easily explained by:

Taxpayer #1 earns $9167/mo. Jan - Feb he pays 4.2% = $770. Mar -Dec he pays 6.2% = $5684, for a yearly total of $6454.

Taxpayer #2 earns $55000/mo. Jan and Feb he pays 4.2% = $4620. Mar - Dec he pays nothing, for a yearly total of $4620.

So, the guy making $660,000/yr would be paying $1834 less than the guy making $110,000/yr. That of course, is a worst case scenario. But, I thought it would be easiest for the dittoheads to follow.

That's the reason. If they agree to a complete year of 4.2%. The recapture will be unnecessary.
Ok, that makes sense. I am man enough to admit when I am wrong. I will refrain from making any more political comments. Thanks for the correction.

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Old 02-10-2012 | 08:47 PM
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Executive summary: Noise and smoke were emitted, but there has been no material change in the Ponzi. The Kabuki will continue, with different players, dances and songs. Enjoy your entertainment, you paid for it.
Old 02-11-2012 | 05:51 AM
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Of course that only leaves the repeal of the Bush Tax cuts, the 3.8% investment surcharge and the extra 1% medicaire tax for those of us alpapac contributors that make over $250K. All kicking in next year.
Old 02-11-2012 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jungle
Spin it all you like, the undeniable truth is that both sides use our money to play their game with almost zero accountability and zero benefit.

Playing sides in this matter has proven over time to be a complete waste.
This and this.
Old 02-11-2012 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishfreighter
Only if you're COMPLETELY ignorant of what Marxism is.
I'm not completely ignorant of what Marxism is and this discussion and actions of "the Marxist-in Chief" tend to be more in line with what "Marxism" is than what it isn't.

This leads me to believe someone is ignorant about their assumed understanding of socioeconomic theory.
Old 02-11-2012 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by iarapilot
Not the case.
nnnnnnnno. If you think that Obama is a Marxist, you are indeed completely ignorant of Marxism.
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