Atlas Air 767-200 Flying; How's It Going?
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Atlas Air 767-200 Flying; How's It Going?
Just wanted to find out how it is going with the 767-200s in the DHL network now that its been about 6 months since they started having Atlas fly lines.
Is it official that it will now only be four airplanes or are you guys still trying to get the fifth one going?
I noticed you guys lost PHX-SAN but gained ORD for October; any more flips coming up soon?
Current Flying
CVG-TOL-MSP-TOL-CVG
CVG-ORD-CVG
CVG-ATL-CVG
CVG-SFO-CVG
Is it official that it will now only be four airplanes or are you guys still trying to get the fifth one going?
I noticed you guys lost PHX-SAN but gained ORD for October; any more flips coming up soon?
Current Flying
CVG-TOL-MSP-TOL-CVG
CVG-ORD-CVG
CVG-ATL-CVG
CVG-SFO-CVG
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First, it has to be remembered, that the planes are crap. Sat for many years in the weather in storage. Old TWA planes sitting for years, equals many issues.
DHL moved the PHX-SAN flight to the ORD flights so the legs were easier to recover if the plane has an issue.
Fifth plane is the worst and has some gear issues and heard something about a mercury spill years ago that lead to serious corrosion. Due out in November.
No other flipping so far.
DHL moved the PHX-SAN flight to the ORD flights so the legs were easier to recover if the plane has an issue.
Fifth plane is the worst and has some gear issues and heard something about a mercury spill years ago that lead to serious corrosion. Due out in November.
No other flipping so far.
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Exactly, the performance issues with the 200 freighters are MX related due to the old airframes that were given to Atlas to operate. DHL knows this and are not holding this agianst Atlas in any way; instead, they are just changing some routes around until these MX issues can be worked out.
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That is what I was really wondering about the 5th airplane since I had also heard of the mercury spill. Was wondering if they just wrote it off.
What tail this that? 654GT? Is it going to be added to another line or just be used as a spare since I've noticed ABX covering a few flights over the past few months? I could only imagine how bad they were after sitting in open storage @ ILN for years.
What tail this that? 654GT? Is it going to be added to another line or just be used as a spare since I've noticed ABX covering a few flights over the past few months? I could only imagine how bad they were after sitting in open storage @ ILN for years.
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We (ABX) have been told SFO also coming back to ABX in exchange for YHM do to reliability issues. You would have thought DHL would have used these airframes at closer cities until the mx issues had been vetted out but......it is DHL. Also....yes mercury spill (DHL) on 5th airframe which is one reason ABX "put" the 5 Pratt/TWA airframes to DHL... high maintenance costs. IMHO
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We (ABX) have been told SFO also coming back to ABX in exchange for YHM do to reliability issues. You would have thought DHL would have used these airframes at closer cities until the mx issues had been vetted out but......it is DHL. Also....yes mercury spill (DHL) on 5th airframe which is one reason ABX "put" the 5 Pratt/TWA airframes to DHL... high maintenance costs. IMHO
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Depends on your point of view....when Airborne was purchased by DHL and ABXAir spun off because of foreign ownership laws ABX was flying 110 airframes for DHL. As DHL d**ked up the US express market Airborne spent 30 years to build...ABX started losing cities and parking airframes. The agreement included an airframe buyback if they (DHL) screwed things up and the business went sideways..which it did. DHL were "put" ie; required to purchase...around 65-70 DC9s, 25 DC8s, and the 5 oddballs of the 767 fleet the Pratt powered 767s 1 of which DHL loaders spilled Mercury on leaving ABX flying 11 (at that time) 767s for DHL and a stock price of .13 cents, 180 pilots down from 750+, 400 total employees down from 6000. So who screwed who?
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YHM has always been an expected route for us. Haven't heard about BOS/JFK, but I would assume we'll trade SFO for something else until the airplanes can perform.
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