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FDXLAG 11-27-2012 06:38 PM

The decision to continue a safe approach is not the same as saying they did nothing wrong. I dont know if they did anything wrong I dont have the evidence. But as a hypothetical, being unstable at 500 feet but working towards stable by 400 feet can be wrong and safe at the same time. Just as holding your mask on your lap at 260 is (I dont condone that practice either).

2StgTurbine 11-27-2012 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1300288)
The decision to continue a safe approach is not the same as saying they did nothing wrong. I dont know if they did anything wrong I dont have the evidence. But as a hypothetical, being unstable at 500 feet but working towards stable by 400 feet can be wrong and safe at the same time. Just as holding your mask on your lap at 260 is (I dont condone that practice either).

I agree with this. There are fudge factors for a reason. Like you said, we do not know what their intensions were or their exact altitude (But to me it looks lower than 400).

If you are honestly trying to make your approach stable and at 1,000/500 feet but the flaps are still in motion, the gear is in transit, or your speed is still slowing to approach speed, you have to ask yourself if you have this thing under control and how much longer will it take to be stabilized. My rule is all configuration changes definitely need to be initiated before 1,000 feet and speed must be set by 500 feet.

HIFLYR 11-28-2012 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 1300082)
Had that problem in IAD. First they assigned 250 when I was 12nm out. Then at 10nm they gave me 170. Like you, I aim to be stabilized by 1,000 and was. On 1nm final tower tells me to speed up. The captain politely tells him to stuff it and the tower complains that we went back to final approach speed 3 miles out! I couldn't care less. I fly by the book and could care less if that makes ATC slow down traffic behind me.


Good plan never let ATC fly your aircraft for you simply say unable or we require runway 36 for operational reasons etc.

sprucie 11-28-2012 09:27 PM

Paula Jones 1997

TeddyKGB 11-29-2012 07:02 AM

Is RS back flying the line? At least she kept it on the runway on that landing ;)

sprucie 11-29-2012 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by sprucie (Post 1301200)
Paula Jones 1997

Edit: Paula Cole 1997, definitely not Jones.

Full pull 12-13-2012 01:33 PM

Looks like the video has caught up with the crew!

Adlerdriver 12-13-2012 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Full pull (Post 1311080)
Looks like the video has caught up with the crew!

Yup. Both NOQ in Dec. :(
Judging from BM's "Tales from the dark side" today, they probably didn't submit an ASAP.

Daniel Larusso 12-13-2012 02:14 PM

The peanut gallery has been heard.......hooray?

Huck 12-13-2012 02:45 PM

I've submitted two ASAP's already. One for a bird strike, one for a missed turn while taxiing.

It's a simple system and you get some good feedback. I like it.


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