The company didn't have a 757 FO to completely cover trip 76 for Mar 30. They had to split it up at the end. However, the second half of the pairing hasn't been picked up and it isn't listed as an x pairing. Trip 298 on the 2 apr.

Cloud, I think you meant to post this here:

This is a change from policy in the past! I was told that "disputed pairing" was a misnomer. It is not the pairing that is disputed but a sequence in the pairing. If that sequence is continually flown voluntarily then the dispute will not hold up. :mad:

Yep, thanks for the help Max.

I guess what counts in that description is that if it the revised pairing (same sequence with int'l DH's in this case) is VOLUNTARILY flown, it still DOES NOT count against the DP process.

I see that as good news in that, for example, if a MEM crew picks up a CGN trip that is was a DP without the int'l DH, said MEM crew would not need to find out whether the pairing is a DP or not, since they would not be hurting the process. I would imagine, but am not saying this is a fact, that this same logic applies to ANC-LAX-MEM MD11, and HKG-MEM Airbus.

My question is: When did the policy change and who changed it or did your LEC get it wrong?

Remember: As long as they are wearing their lanyards, they’re showing unity!

Give it a rest.

Give us a better way to spot the d-bags, then.

I don’t understand. If you are a reserve and are assigned a DP trip with a non reserve pilot who picked it up, then you automatically know who the DP flyer is. All you have to do is announce it it to the world. The world should then approach said pilot and instruct him on proper car tire inflation so that he doesn’t continue to get flat tires.

It’s rather easy to take the SIG list of published DPs and see who’s picking up these trips versus being forced to do it as a reserve.

That said, we all of course need to comply with the conduct standards published by ALPA and the company. But, after meeting those standards, there are no requirements to do anything extra for these people, especially if they fly the same seat that you do. Thus, if they ask to trip-trade, swap vacation, or trade a training date…they can forget it. We owe them none of these extra nice things. And while you can’t deny them a jumpseat, if they ask to ride up front, they can forget that too.

Our SIG team works really hard to provide each of us a reasonable quality of life with safety being their first priority. Anyway legitimate way we can properly support the SIG is worth the effort.

+1. For all the Airbus drivers, you only had to avoid one trip this month: 276. It happens to operate on March 26, 27, 28, and April 2,3,4,9,
10,11,16,17,18,23,24 and 25. Only one of those crewmembers operating those trips (thus far) has been assigned it on reserve.

So, I wonder what the conversation is like all the way out to PHX? "Wow, this trip sucks. I didn't know it was a Disputed Pairing, did you?" Thanks to all the selfish ones, you can look forward to this being in our bid pack permanently.:mad: UNSAT, folks....truly UNSAT.

If the pairing is revised before it is voluntarily picked up, it is hard to spot as disputed. Some would say it is no longer disputed --- but it is no longer reviewable by the PSIT. IMHO, it remains disputed in principle. But picking up a DP before revision undermines not just the SIG but our entire group. Picking up a DP with the hopes of a revision is not a hall pass. Nor flying a DP that is subsequently revised (say mid-trip). A DP is a DP and if it is flown voluntarily, they should hear about it. For those who believe it goes unnoticed.... wrong. You are being noticed! Reputations soon follow.