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Originally Posted by IrishSkies
(Post 1425072)
This is not drama, I heard this from a solid source.
My question is, why haven't we heard this earlier from the union folks? If this is accurate, I believe it is, why havent the union folks pre warned? Why am I paying dues? With 18 -20% on the table then my belief is that most of the senior guys would be willing to suffer a few years of misery for the $.....we are screwed! If you heard it from someone in the training department then you didn't hear it from a solid source. No one in training knows anything more than anyone else. |
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 1425243)
Typically, PBS systems are set up to have the schedules built after known conflicts like training and vaca are already in place. Much of the efficiency of the system would be lost if it wasn't. I suppose it could be negotiated, but it seems unlikely if the company's motivation is gaining the efficiency inherent in a PBS system.
There are so many other "cons" for us w/ a PBS system, the vacation stuff is just the tip of the iceberg. Just say "no". True. I meant it in the context of sliding the vaca to conflict with a trip, not just tweeking the actual days you're off. It comes down to what are our obligations under the RLA. Do we have to negotiate in good faith or not. Seems to me our goal should be to make the company not want PBS. |
PBS=NO Vote. Period. Do not be distracted, do not let them Direct Deal :mad:. Have Faith in the NC.......they are doing what we told them to do. :)
My Negotiating Committee Speaks for Me!!!!! |
They certainly speak to the company for me, it is the law. Does not mean that I have to sit in Catechism class and hope Sister Marie doesn't smack my knuckles again.
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
(Post 1425275)
They certainly speak to the company for me, it is the law. Does not mean that I have to sit in Catechism class and hope Sister Marie doesn't smack my knuckles again.
Never implied anything close LAG.......Cheers ;) |
Originally Posted by IrishSkies
(Post 1425051)
I was in training this week and heard some ungodly rumors about PBS.
Specifically a 20% raise if we accept PBS. With all the folks who have less in 10 years to go, we are all screwed because you know they're voting yes. |
Originally Posted by IrishSkies
(Post 1425051)
...With all the folks who have less in 10 years to go, we are all screwed because you know they're voting yes....
Anyway - there is NO AMOUNT OF MONEY that would make me want to work under PBS for my last few years! |
Originally Posted by Unknown Rider
(Post 1425259)
If you heard it from someone in the training department then you didn't hear it from a solid source. No one in training knows anything more than anyone else.
They get to see a large number of crew members and are trying their Jedi Mind trick on us to push the PBS agenda. Being an APC'er, I'm immune to such nonsense. |
Originally Posted by Gunter
(Post 1425492)
They DO know something we line pilots don't. They know what they want. Career Flexes don't bid the line so some will gladly sell the line crew member out for a modest pay bump. That's just how they are.
They get to see a large number of crew members and are trying their Jedi Mind trick on us to push the PBS agenda. Being an APC'er, I'm immune to such nonsense. Most of those fuys are facing being replaced by proffessionals, so I really doubt they feel secure in their positions. |
Originally Posted by Unknown Rider
(Post 1425538)
Most of those fuys are facing being replaced by proffessionals, so I really doubt they feel secure in their positions.
Bob G.'s former job got advertised last week, but I bet a chili-pepper soup that it goes to a non-seniority list candidate. Probably a retired US Air guy.... |
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