Let's get to the nut-cutting.

No reason to I've made my prediction on a contract (2015) and I stand by it. The company is fine with the status quo, why would they be willing to give us more when we really don't have anything they want (except PBS).

Here's a wild idea:

Let the company go ahead and design their "perfect" PBS, with all the union input they say they want. Then, when it's tweaked to perfection, run it in parallel with our existing system on a "what if" basis for at least six months BEFORE the amendable date of our upcoming new contract. Sure, that'll delay it one contract cycle (at least!), but if it's so great and the trial period convinces everybody it'll work like the company says it will, it should be a shoo-in for the NEXT contract.

If it falls on its face, well, no one can say we didn't at least give it the ol' college try.

What I will NEVER agree to is to give the company a blank check and hope everything turns out well. Hmmm... have we been down this road before?

For me, there are a few issues in which any concessions will get an automatic "NO" vote regardless of whatever else is in the proposed contract.
1. Retirement
2. Vacation
3. Medical/disability insurance
And last but not least:
4. PBS

Well now there's a 3rd missive out. This one's all about how they're gonna 'fix' our vacation. Don't know about you, but I like my vacation just the way it is, thank you!
Also, they talk about their "proposal." That just kills me, like we should trust that all these great PIBS "proposals" would actually come to fruition.
I guess the question is, "How many times do you just have to say, NO?"

MG2

Of course they want PBS. They'd also like to pay us minimum wage. But they also know that PBS is a nonstarter. It's very much a head fake. If you listen to the banter here, everyone is up in arms over PBS. Watch out for the reach around while we are focused on PBS...

They're really starting to **** me off. All I want to do is log in and do my job but they're in my face trying to negotiate with me, this is very distracting and unsafe. Maybe we all should take a little extra time during preflight to ensure we're fit for duty. We have the power.
My negotiating committee speaks for me, it's the safest way.

"If" PiBS is such a "great deal" how about if Management and ALPA publish a joint (pun intended) communication with realistic advantages.

Until then ... what's in the other hand?

Maybe the SMS system could be used to express our concern for distraction? All the time they tell us (both ALPA and Company) to keep CBA talk out of the jet, then they slap 3 big old distractions in a place you are required to log into just minutes before you move a jet.

Poor form to say the least.

Hey Fly,

If helpful, I would be happy to do that......I'm doubtful FedEx would let me on the property if they new the agenda.......many on this forum know me, as I have made no effort to hide my identity.

Best regards,
BG

If Mr PIBS is so great why can't they show it to us? Why can't they run a demo...ohh thats right we don't have one of those, but trust us we will get one