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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 1515636)
Can we stop please. One guy asks a question about a rumor, then basically recants.
1 page later we're getting spun up over something that isn't probably happening. What are our union leaders supposed to respond to? A unsubstantiated APC rumor or did I miss the FCIF declaring war on sick leave users? The company got their pee-pee whacked pretty good over this Dr. note issue in a grievance a while back (see contract). If you're going out sick over the declared holidays or need to use your disability sick account, it's possible you'll need a letter IAW the CBA. So go to the doctor and get one. Other than that, I agree it's stupid to ask you to produce a note you didn't know you would need after you're well, especially if you didn't go to a doctor in the first place. I doubt this happens too often. If I had to go out sick tomorrow, I'll bet it would be just like every other time. Uneventful. |
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I had a request for note from my fleet captain. On second time calling in sick for the year, third time ever. Not on a holiday or against vacation. They claim it's because both times were during a stint of R days. Well, when you're a junior VTO holder, half your schedule is R days. I guess I wasn't senior enough to hold a line so I'm not trustworthy to call in sick.
Told the union. They said it didn't fit into a suspicious profile. Again, not against vacation, or holiday, or significant number of sick calls in a year. They said they did notice the company being more aggressive. They also said its in the contract the company can do it pretty much whenever they want, if they have a reasonable doubt, whatever that means is determined by them. What did the union do? Absolutely nothing. One side insinuated I was lying, and the other side just took my dues and rolled over. I'm not sure which was worse. Just because it hasn't happened to you, doesn't mean it's not happening. I still have the email from the union saying they see the company being more aggressive. |
Originally Posted by C17MooseDriver
(Post 1515646)
I had a request for note from my fleet captain. On second time calling in sick for the year, third time ever. Not on a holiday or against vacation. They claim it's because both times were during a stint of R days. Well, when you're a junior VTO holder, half your schedule is R days. I guess I wasn't senior enough to hold a line so I'm not trustworthy to call in sick.
Told the union. They said it didn't fit into a suspicious profile. Again, not against vacation, or holiday, or significant number of sick calls in a year. They said they did notice the company being more aggressive. They also said its in the contract the company can do it pretty much whenever they want, if they have a reasonable doubt, whatever that means is determined by them. What did the union do? Absolutely nothing. One side insinuated I was lying, and the other side just took my dues and rolled over. I'm not sure which was worse. Just because it hasn't happened to you, doesn't mean it's not happening. I still have the email from the union stating it's happening. |
Originally Posted by FDXLAG
(Post 1515652)
I know who you talked to. :( Call him back and ask if there is still no evidence of increased scrutiny.
Section 14.A.6.a |
Originally Posted by matty
(Post 1515644)
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Matty, I have no idea what the message you deleted even meant. |
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 1515636)
Can we stop please. One guy asks a question about a rumor, then basically recants.
1 page later we're getting spun up over something that isn't probably happening. What are our union leaders supposed to respond to? A unsubstantiated APC rumor or did I miss the FCIF declaring war on sick leave users? The company got their pee-pee whacked pretty good over this Dr. note issue in a grievance a while back (see contract). If you're going out sick over the declared holidays or need to use your disability sick account, it's possible you'll need a letter IAW the CBA. So go to the doctor and get one. Other than that, I agree it's stupid to ask you to produce a note you didn't know you would need after you're well, especially if you didn't go to a doctor in the first place. I doubt this happens too often. If I had to go out sick tomorrow, I'll bet it would be just like every other time. Uneventful. |
Originally Posted by C17MooseDriver
(Post 1515656)
He confirmed there was increased scrutiny, but basically insinuated there was nothing we could do, because the contract allows the company, on their own, to determine, in good faith (yeah right) when a note should be required.
Section 14.A.6.a |
Originally Posted by FDXLAG
(Post 1515664)
Seems to me the posted PFC article is evidence that the company is fishing and not using good faith.
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Are you kidding me, I just read it. I think they just stepped all over their crank. Yes, I think the union really does need to address this.
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