Atlas Crew Lands Dreamlifter Wrong Airport
11-22-2013, 06:59 AM
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The F/O, PF for the landing was later made VP Flt Ops at FTL, the Captain retired 15 years later as a B747 Captain.
OV-1 Mohawk-Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain- Vietnam.m4v - YouTube
Originally Posted by MaydayMark
You don't really think that Atlas and the FAA are going to take the "Can happen to anyone" approach to this ... do you? I'm not sure you could explain this one in an ACTUAL EMERGENCY.
People (including innocent people on the ground), equipment (an awfully expensive airplane), facilities (are they lucky they didn't break through the asphalt?)? Questionable airmanship/judgement, insurance. Tons more ...
This is a HUGE DEAL!
You're screwing with us ... right
People (including innocent people on the ground), equipment (an awfully expensive airplane), facilities (are they lucky they didn't break through the asphalt?)? Questionable airmanship/judgement, insurance. Tons more ...
This is a HUGE DEAL!
You're screwing with us ... right
OV-1 Mohawk-Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain- Vietnam.m4v - YouTube
11-22-2013, 06:59 AM
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One things for sure, pretty good pilots if you ask me...put that big beast in on a 6000 runway that's just wide enough for the gear and didn't put a scratch on it, no runway overrun, sounds like they had room to spare! Heck, 6000' looks a little short in an airbus, much less a freakin 747...good stick and rudder pilots if you ask me!!
11-22-2013, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
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The F/O, PF for the landing was later made VP Flt Ops at FTL, the Captain retired 15 years later as a B747 Captain.
OV-1 Mohawk-Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain- Vietnam.m4v - YouTube
The F/O, PF for the landing was later made VP Flt Ops at FTL, the Captain retired 15 years later as a B747 Captain.
OV-1 Mohawk-Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain- Vietnam.m4v - YouTube
11-22-2013, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by windrider
That was awesome, did you see those flight attendants!? Definitely the good ole days...can we get them back?
11-22-2013, 07:39 AM
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fwiw Atlas aircraft don't necessarily have a big US database loaded up. This could have prevented any approach displays on the mfd. don't know if that was so for this case. i flew to multiple US airports that weren't in the database and assumed it was because all the international data took up so much storage.
11-22-2013, 07:50 AM
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I'm really surprised that the consensus seems to be "Could happen to anyone" attitude. I'm not sure a private pilot in his Cessna could explain landing at the wrong airport? They make comedy movies with scenes like this!
And - it might not have been in his FMS Data Base? Doesn't the "DreamLifter" fly there routinely? How could it not be in the data base?
Does that mean that all the analog airplanes we've collectively ever flow (early model 747's, 737's, 727's, DC-10's, DC-9's) couldn't land at the "right" airport.
You guys are screwing with me ... right?
They make comedy movies with scenes like this!And - it might not have been in his FMS Data Base? Doesn't the "DreamLifter" fly there routinely? How could it not be in the data base?
Does that mean that all the analog airplanes we've collectively ever flow (early model 747's, 737's, 727's, DC-10's, DC-9's) couldn't land at the "right" airport.
You guys are screwing with me ... right?
11-22-2013, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by FoxHunter
The F/O, PF for the landing was later made VP Flt Ops at FTL, the Captain retired 15 years later as a B747 Captain.
OV-1 Mohawk-Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain- Vietnam.m4v - YouTube
OV-1 Mohawk-Seaboard World DC-8 lands at Marble Mountain- Vietnam.m4v - YouTube
Also, too young to have known about it at the time, but TWA landed at OSU instead of CMH.
11-22-2013, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
I'm really surprised that the consensus seems to be "Could happen to anyone" attitude. I'm not sure a private pilot in his Cessna could explain landing at the wrong airport? They make comedy movies with scenes like this!
And - it might not have been in his FMS Data Base? Doesn't the "DreamLifter" fly there routinely? How could it not be in the data base?
Does that mean that all the analog airplanes we've collectively ever flow (early model 747's, 737's, 727's, DC-10's, DC-9's) couldn't land at the "right" airport.
You guys are screwing with me ... right?
They make comedy movies with scenes like this!And - it might not have been in his FMS Data Base? Doesn't the "DreamLifter" fly there routinely? How could it not be in the data base?
Does that mean that all the analog airplanes we've collectively ever flow (early model 747's, 737's, 727's, DC-10's, DC-9's) couldn't land at the "right" airport.
You guys are screwing with me ... right?
I'm not saying what these guys did or didn't do, we don't know that yet. But landing at the wrong airport, in a 747-400 or equivalent avionics, could NOT "happen to anyone".
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