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Old 11-21-2013 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by lr35pilot
It is AND not OR. 40 and 17
It's neither and nor or. It's just the bmi.
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Old 11-21-2013 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
It's really simple. They are setting up for the arbitration that will occur when we don't accept their offer of PBS. They will try to say they worked diligently "reaching out" to us. Of course they will never admit they are making outrageous assertions. That the thing they want requires our management culture to completely change. A change that is not going to happen under any circumstance. Managers must be practicing their most naive and surprised look in the mirror for the "are you kidding me?" moment.

How the head of contract admin can preach PBS is good for us yet be ignorant of how scheduling works at FedEx tells you much about him.


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COMPASS PILOTS HAVE NEW CONTRACT

Pilots at Delta Connection carrier Compass Airlines have a new contract. The new six-year agreement is a combination of contract sections negotiated by ALPA and the airline, plus a handful of issues decided by an arbitrator.



They have a pretty good track record in arbitration (slimy arbitrators) so they are willing to take a chance. Apparently management has come to the conclusion there is nothing to lose but all to gain by stalling negotiations. A time honored technique from some seriously old school managers. If they could just convince us of that "fact" all will be well.

Do you think they respect our negotiating process? I don't. What we've got here is failure to communicate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=452XjnaHr1A

Question is, can we speak in the language we know they understand?
Who in their right mind would agree to arbitration over PBS? If and when the NMB proffers arbitration...I would decline.
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Old 11-21-2013 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
BMI 40 AND/OR Neck 17"

It is AND not OR.
Those with a body mass index (BMI) of 40 or greater and a neck circumference of 17 inches would have to be tested for obstructive sleep apnea.


FAA: Overweight pilots, controllers must be tested for sleep disorders - CNN.com
It was a joke. Mainly for Tony, and his pals. re: Sleep Apnea--Tony vs Many



Guess I needed a few of these...
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Old 11-21-2013 | 06:34 PM
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Just goes to show that the legal definition of a thing, i.e. direct dealing, isn't necessarily the practical definition of a thing.
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Old 11-21-2013 | 08:34 PM
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The wake stirred up by back paddling is IMPRESSIVE!
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Old 11-22-2013 | 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Busboy

BMI 40 AND/OR Neck 17"


No, no, no ...


It's BMI > 40 AND a reading comprehension test.






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Old 11-22-2013 | 04:21 AM
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I can read just fine, I am not illegitimate!

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Old 11-22-2013 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
Who in their right mind would agree to arbitration over PBS? If and when the NMB proffers arbitration...I would decline.
I hear you. We should get used to the idea that the current CBA will be with us for awhile.
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Old 11-22-2013 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunter
We should get used to the idea that the current CBA will be with us for awhile.
Was that always part of Management's plan?

We'll squeeze them until they agree to PBS, intentionally drag out negotiations and then ask for arbitration ... heck, we might be able to drag this out for 4-5 years. We win! High 5's!

We can start this plan by taking their lockers away ... that will distract them for a couple of months ... ha, ha, ha!

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Old 11-22-2013 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
It was a joke. Mainly for Tony, and his pals. re: Sleep Apnea--Tony vs Many



Guess I needed a few of these...
Sorry, I have just seen so much on this lately. I am one of the over 17 inch fellas...at least that is what she says!
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