Here's the skinny. INTL you must have a seat in the back on a pax carrier. You still "jumpseat" but you basically become a non rev. As mentioned UPS/FDX don't carry intl OAL jumpers. Polar/atlas/Kalitta and maybe Southern(???) might. But you have to contact them directly for a schedule. Past experience on polar has been excellent, never tried the others. You may need to go to STN or even EMA to get on.

You should check with your jumpseat coordinator and get a def answer on who you have an agreement to go intl on. DL out of LHR is pretty easy (space permitting), just have to go to the right counter. UAL intl is also been no prob in the past, but never taken them out of LHR. Never tried US and never had an AA intl agreement.

 

You very well can "jumpseat" on a many airlines up front. The problem isn't CASS, it's your name being on the MCL, and if your name does not appear on the MCL the airline must do additional vetting on you, as an individual. This is something most of the "high crust" airlines don't want to do. It also comes down how each individual airline's security program is written and what is approved by the TSA for that particular carrier.

99% of the time employees of the airline operating the flight (and it's codeshare partners, funny enough) are allowed to sit up front without additional verification, as written in the generic 12-5 security programs the TSA issues.

Additional things like the manifest and individual clearance come into play as well. CASS itself is nothing more than an electronic means of employment verification.

Just about any of the ad-hoc/supplemental cargo carriers will get it done for you and welcome you aboard with open arms.

 

Yes, American is a definite no international right now! The JS coordinator said it will change when the merger is complete. However, if you want to try it like I did, good luck! But, Delta, USAir and United are really good right now and will more often than not move you to First Class! We have a couple of London commuters and that is the current intel.

 

For some reason American doesn't have reciprocal jumpseat agreements internationally (in an open seat in back) with many carriers. (It's technically jumpseating but effectively non-revving, as the last non-rev too.)
Fedex has an agreement as do a few other pax carriers but that's about it, from what I've gathered over the years.

 

It all boils down to an old/crusty mentality they had "back in the day" of "well, YOUR airline can't take me to (insert int'l destination here) therefore we can't take you to (insert int'l destination here)".

Interesting, as I believe that UPS doesn't but I could very well be wrong. I believe that SW does have an int'l agreement with them (AA). The story is that the SW guys pressed pretty hard to get it using the rationale that a crap-ton of AA guys ride on SW to places like Chicago, Dallas, etc.

 

This is mis-information. AA is airline specific--and here is the exact answer:

International jump seats, are limited to all listed carriers, to the number of actual jump seats installed on the aircraft (TSA restricted to cabin space available only.) On international legs they are available to the following pilots: Alaska, Delta, FedEx, United, US Airways, Airtran and Southwest.

 

This is a cargo forum, so unless you are a FedEx guy, like I said, no JS on American (International) until the merger is complete!

 

At UPS, pre 9/11, we used to take tons of off line pilots on the international jumpseats. We are more than willing to do so now, but the hang up is with TSA. Just as we worked hard on setting up the original CASS system, we are working hard on getting the international jumpseat restored at UPS. Contact your jumpseat rep for more detailed information.

 

You misread my post. It WASN'T about UPS having the ability, it's about who has an int'l reciprocal JS agreement with AA. Whereas I can't remember if UPS does, but I know that SW does.

And YES, because of work I've done in the past, I'm fully aware of the SPECIFIC TSA directives that prevent int'l JS'ing on UPS and FedEx, while the ACMI's carriers DO allow it.