Originally Posted by jhugz
(Post 2642989)
We should be pushing for a company contribution of 18% no match required for our 401k. I believe United is 18% and Delta is 15%. We get close to that and I’d be thrilled. Retirement is my number one complaint here and why I don’t view Kalitta as my last stop unless things change in that department. Which is a bummer because I really do like it here.
As much as I’d love an A or B Fund I just don’t see it happening and it’s kind of a fossil anyway. A sham bankruptcy can get the company out of an A Fund. A huge retirement bump, a cost of living raise, and some contract language/guarantee fixes would be my ideal next contract. |
Originally Posted by No Land 3
(Post 2642964)
My dad was self employed growing up, I come from a family that saved for their own retirement using Roth Ira's, etc. So retirement was never a mystery having a job that will pay between 200 to 300k a year for the majority of my working life. I fully understand the majority of you are trying all you can do with the time you have left given the poor pay from before, and your yelling out loud about the importance of said programs because it would of been a blessing for you to have. I get that. I also do not want to rely on something later in life without a plan b, c ,d etc. Next go around we need to get a better retirement, but I am not counting on it, nor should anyone else.
Assume your gross earnings for 2018 are $300,000 and you are under 50 and contribute the maximum of $18.500 to your 401K. 300,000 - 18,500= 281,500 281,500 is your taxable amount Federal Taxes (Married Filling Jointly) - 50,379 (This rate expires in 2024) Social Security-7,960 (Cap amount at the present time) Medicare Tax/Surtax- 5,355 (There is no Cap on Medicare) State Income Tax- ? You only "made" 236,306 less any State Income Tax If you reach the 12 year pay by the amendable date and the next Contract takes 5 years to negotiate you must take inflation into account. Subtract about 9,000 for a 5 year window. https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ Math is hard, arithmetic doesn't have to be. After my nap and cookies and milk I'll be doing the arithmetic that demonstrates how much a 10% non-taxable employer match is worth. |
Originally Posted by Geezer
(Post 2643019)
You will never "make" that. Here's why:
Assume your gross earnings for 2018 are $300,000 and you are under 50 and contribute the maximum of $18.500 to your 401K. 300,000 - 18,500= 281,500 281,500 is your taxable amount Federal Taxes (Married Filling Jointly) - 50,379 (This rate expires in 2024) Social Security-7,960 (Cap amount at the present time) Medicare Tax/Surtax- 5,355 (There is no Cap on Medicare) State Income Tax- ? You only "made" 236,306 less any State Income Tax If you reach the 12 year pay by the amendable date and the next Contract takes 5 years to negotiate you must take inflation into account. Subtract about 9,000 for a 5 year window. https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ Math is hard, arithmetic doesn't have to be. After my nap and cookies and milk I'll be doing the arithmetic that demonstrates how much a 10% non-taxable employer match is worth. |
Originally Posted by No Land 3
(Post 2642964)
My dad was self employed growing up, I come from a family that saved for their own retirement using Roth Ira's, etc. So retirement was never a mystery having a job that will pay between 200 to 300k a year for the majority of my working life. I fully understand the majority of you are trying all you can do with the time you have left given the poor pay from before, and your yelling out loud about the importance of said programs because it would of been a blessing for you to have. I get that. I also do not want to rely on something later in life without a plan b, c ,d etc. Next go around we need to get a better retirement, but I am not counting on it, nor should anyone else.
Here's how a non-taxable Employer contribution of 10% would look with a gross earning of $300,000 per year with a 5 year duration. 10% of 300,000 is 30,000 If you achieved an 8% return on 30,000 re-invested annually over a 5 year time frame you would have, assuming $0 at the beginning and a 30,000 contribution on the last day of the 5th year: $175,998.03 This gets even better: Lets assume you work here for exactly that amount of time. Your big plans to buy a Jimmy John's and a Jiffy Lube by the time you are 40 come true. Jackpot! You contribute $0 for 30 1/2 years at 8% (you have to mandatory withdrawals beginning at age 70 1/2). How much was your Employer contribution worth? $1,771,007.79 With a time horizon of only 5 years you're nearly a multi-millionaire. https://www.investor.gov/additional-...est-calculator |
Originally Posted by Locke
(Post 2643051)
That was an awful lot of work to say you pay taxes and then you die.
Please don't participate in the next contract survey. |
Originally Posted by Geezer
(Post 2643059)
Very persuasive reply.
Please don't participate in the next contract survey. |
Originally Posted by Geezer
(Post 2643056)
Short nap. Had to get up to yell at the kids on the lawn. My wife bought Pecan Sandies and skim milk-sheesh. (Spiced it up with Boost)
Here's how a non-taxable Employer contribution of 10% would look with a gross earning of $300,000 per year with a 5 year duration. 10% of 300,000 is 30,000 If you achieved an 8% return on 30,000 re-invested annually over a 5 year time frame you would have, assuming $0 at the beginning and a 30,000 contribution on the last day of the 5th year: $175,998.03 This gets even better: Lets assume you work here for exactly that amount of time. Your big plans to buy a Jimmy John's and a Jiffy Lube by the time you are 40 come true. Jackpot! You contribute $0 for 30 1/2 years at 8% (you have to mandatory withdrawals beginning at age 70 1/2). How much was your Employer contribution worth? $1,771,007.79 With a time horizon of only 5 years you're nearly a multi-millionaire. https://www.investor.gov/additional-...est-calculator As some of us found out in the short staffing debacle in 2016/17...max IRS contribution is 19.5k pr yr. Whether you make 300k, 400k, or 600k....19.5k per year. |
There's also no replacement for getting an early start because of compounding interest. Some of the pilots I have a lot of respect for at K4 own rental properties. You can earn a good enough income with that and as you get older or lack the ability to take care of them, hire a decent property manager to run it for you, or simply cash out...
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Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
(Post 2643090)
Skim milk...my son in law calls it chalk water....
As some of us found out in the short staffing debacle in 2016/17...max IRS contribution is 19.5k pr yr. Whether you make 300k, 400k, or 600k....19.5k per year. So if the company contributes 15% with no match required, and you put none of your own money into the 401k, you will not cap that until you make 365,000ish a year. You need to make 250,000ish at 15% a year plus contribute your yearly max to hit that 55k. |
Originally Posted by nitefr8dog
(Post 2643090)
Skim milk...my son in law calls it chalk water....
As some of us found out in the short staffing debacle in 2016/17...max IRS contribution is 19.5k pr yr. Whether you make 300k, 400k, or 600k....19.5k per year. |
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