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Old 06-20-2014, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8 View Post
I think Frank is correct on this one. The only time it matters once you deviate is if your operating flight gets in too late to have a legal crew rest for the scheduled deadhead they have to make the pairing legal.
...and this is correct too

And everyone please remember, deviating on the backend DOES NOT mean you're necessarily going straight home when you land

You have every right to GT "to" the hotel, the full Hotel layover time until the scheduled flight home

You lose the GT back to the airport, but can declare any GT fees from your deviation travel bank

Thus, if your flight gets in too late for a legal crew rest and everyone on the crew is deviating home (even immediately) call CRS and have them revise the layover and subsequent flight back to MEM

Your bank can only go up --- and your trip can (and typically does) pay more

I've seen 6-10 more hours of pay for everyone on the trip because one guy made a phone call to CRS
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Old 06-20-2014, 09:10 AM
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You have to submit a pay log for LCT, the 3 and 3.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15 View Post
Even NOCAT gets overlooked…..don't.
And use your Fredit Card so it's never out of your pocket.
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Old 06-22-2014, 06:55 AM
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Any time a hotel asks for a card, I give them the company card.

If I charge something to the room, when I checkout I pay in cash or ask them to charge the food to my personal card.

I've known too many guys who've had their personal cards charged for the room---then had to deal with the hassle of recovering it from the company
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Old 06-22-2014, 09:32 AM
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There is NO requirement to deviate on the backend. All you have to do is call corp travel and cnx the scheduled flight. The bank is yours whether you deviate or not.
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Old 06-22-2014, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CargoCan View Post
There is NO requirement to deviate on the backend. All you have to do is call corp travel and cnx the scheduled flight. The bank is yours whether you deviate or not.
Other than the pretty clear language from our contract below.

8.C.1.h End-of-Trip Deviations
A pilot shall notify the Company of his deviation from a scheduled deadhead at the end of a trip through VIPS:
  1. at least 60 hours prior to the showtime for an international deadhead; or
  2. at least 8 hours prior to the showtime for a domestic deadhead, unless the airline requires an earlier notification to avoid cancellation penalties, in which case the deviation notification must occur 12 hours prior to the carrier’s no penalty deadline.
I understand the intent of your statement and I'm also aware that lots of pilots do it. As long as they cancel the actual flight, it gets refunded and they have the bank money available.

All I'm saying is, if it's not your day, I think there's a potential to be called on this. For instance, if the company thinks you're where you're scheduled to be, you're not and they revise your pairing. As far as I can tell, there's no paragraph in the contract that states you are free and clear of any further responsibilities after the last revenue flight of your back-end DH pairing without notifying the company. That may be how it happens in practice, but considering the nature of the company's legalistic approach to certain issues, it might be tough to answer the mail on this one (if somehow they feel you created problems with your choice).

Just a thought.
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Old 06-24-2014, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
Other than the pretty clear language from our contract below.

8.C.1.h End-of-Trip Deviations
A pilot shall notify the Company of his deviation from a scheduled deadhead at the end of a trip through VIPS:
  1. at least 60 hours prior to the showtime for an international deadhead; or
  2. at least 8 hours prior to the showtime for a domestic deadhead, unless the airline requires an earlier notification to avoid cancellation penalties, in which case the deviation notification must occur 12 hours prior to the carrier’s no penalty deadline.
I understand the intent of your statement and I'm also aware that lots of pilots do it. As long as they cancel the actual flight, it gets refunded and they have the bank money available.

All I'm saying is, if it's not your day, I think there's a potential to be called on this. For instance, if the company thinks you're where you're scheduled to be, you're not and they revise your pairing. As far as I can tell, there's no paragraph in the contract that states you are free and clear of any further responsibilities after the last revenue flight of your back-end DH pairing without notifying the company. That may be how it happens in practice, but considering the nature of the company's legalistic approach to certain issues, it might be tough to answer the mail on this one (if somehow they feel you created problems with your choice).

Just a thought.


I stand corrected. RTFQ - read the full quontract. Thanks for keeping me honest.
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Hey I'm probably the only person in the universe who doesn't know this, but if you're filing "no cat" on your expense report, what amount do you put in? I see that you do it under out of pocket expenses, but I thought there was a standard amount to do. Do you have to include a receipt (I didn't think so). And can you file for all the no cats you forgot to file for over the last year? There is no information whatsoever on their handy website that explains no cat.

The no catering deal is a nice little bonus for the company. Instead of automatically making it part of your pay, they just count on that people are going to forget about it. I'm sure if it was a deduction, it would be automatic.
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Old 08-13-2014, 04:50 PM
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Hey I'm probably the only person in the universe who doesn't know this, but if you're filing "no cat" on your expense report, what amount do you put in? I see that you do it under out of pocket expenses, but I thought there was a standard amount to do. Do you have to include a receipt (I didn't think so). And can you file for all the no cats you forgot to file for over the last year? There is no information whatsoever on their handy website that explains no cat.

The no catering deal is a nice little bonus for the company. Instead of automatically making it part of your pay, they just count on that people are going to forget about it. I'm sure if it was a deduction, it would be automatic.

$25, every single time!
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Old 08-13-2014, 04:52 PM
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Like Sean sez. Sec 5

If the Company is required to provide catering, and the location has
no FDA-approved inflight kitchen (i.e., it is a “NOCAT” city), the pilot
shall, upon submission of an online expense report identifying the
NOCAT city, be entitledto $25for each occurrence,inlieu of catering.
NOCAT cities shall be designated in the bid period package.
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