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Old 01-03-2015, 07:18 AM
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this thread is a good indication of how those at/near the top of the seniority list have a totally diffferent view of the company, compared to those at the bottom. unfortunately, there will be little improvement for those at the bottom over the next 5-10 years, especially compared to AA/DL/UA. something to consider.
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Old 01-03-2015, 07:41 AM
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What's your problem with him? He's just telling you the truth. UPS is a good place to work. Lots of money, lots of time off, good benefits. I don't get wrapped up in the drama most of you bring upon yourselves. I go to work to work and then leave. It's not a social club as some like to try and make it.
If someone has to explain the classlessness of his post, than it's obvious that you have about as much class as he does, and it would therefore be a waste of both our times to try to explain it to you.
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Old 01-03-2015, 07:45 AM
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So...what was this thread originally started about again?

A jumpseater seeking info about getting to and from gateways, I think...?
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Old 01-03-2015, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Husker4Life View Post
UPSpilott....

We get it. You hate UPS. You're miserable and you want to spare the world of your misery. Message received loud and clear. Anyone that disagrees with you is an idiot....

I can't imagine you're married or have kids, but if you do....wow!, do I feel sorry for them!

Here's an excerpt of article about a type of personality disorder. Maybe it applies to someone you know.


Some people make life miserable for others. They blame you for their own problems, have no empathy, and always seem to be conjuring up trouble. A subset of them are called "high conflict people," and they often have some kind of personality disorder--usually borderline or narcissistic personality disorder. Some high-conflict people (HCP) have some maladaptive personality traits, but not enough to have a full-blown personality disorder.

HCPs have a life-long personality pattern of distorted thoughts, emotions, and actions. Time after time, they avoid taking responsibility for their problems. They repeatedly argue against feedback, regardless of how helpful and truthful it may be. And over and over again, they try to persuade others to agree with their rigid points of view and help them attack their targets of blame.

High-conflict people consider themselves as an injured party; a victim, even, of the shortcomings of others. The issues may come and go, but their personality traits keep them in conflict. They never learn from their experiences. The cliché “He would cut off his own nose to spite his face” was written for them, especially in legal disputes

HCPs are prone to the following thoughts, feelings, and actions:

They split, or engage in all-or-nothing thinking

Their negative feelings shape their reality (“feelings equal facts”)

For the most part, their emotions are intense and fluctuate rapidly

They have difficulty empathizing with others

They have a hard time accepting and healing from a loss

Their behaviors are extreme, in keeping with their distorted thoughts and feelings

They’re preoccupied with blaming others and don’t take responsibility for their actions

HCPs live in a black and white world. They may not analyze situations, hear different points of view, or consider possible solutions. Things must be their way, and they’re not willing to be flexible or compromise because it feels like everything is at stake. This especially comes out during divorce proceedings.

They base their view of themselves, situations, and others on what they’re feeling at that moment rather than objective reality. This appears irrational to those around them, who are baffled by the HCP’s raging, blaming, or self-destructive actions.

People with BPD are too self-involved, and people with NPD see others as chess pieces on the black and white chessboard of their life.

They have a hard time accepting and healing from a loss

According to Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, people facing huge losses go through the following stages of the grieving process:

1) Denial

2) Anger

3) Bargaining

4) Depression

5) Acceptance

High conflict people seem stuck in the anger stage.
WOW...You need a life!!

Proud to be from NEBRASKA??? LMAO!!
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Old 01-03-2015, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by navigatro View Post
this thread is a good indication of how those at/near the top of the seniority list have a totally diffferent view of the company, compared to those at the bottom. unfortunately, there will be little improvement for those at the bottom over the next 5-10 years, especially compared to AA/DL/UA. something to consider.
Those guys who upgraded in 7 years just can't figure out what those 2007 hires are so ****ed about?? Let's not even talk about upgrades....some have not gotten off reserve for 8 years! In Aslaka no less!

Some of these mid-90s hires are so out to lunch.
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Old 01-03-2015, 12:57 PM
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To help the original poster, concerning jumpseating to BFI and BWI. Before you call a taxi ask one of the other jumpseaters or crew if they can give you a ride to the Pax side. I do it all the time for jumpseaters when I can and it takes me all of 2 minutes.
As for UPSpilot, you really are pretty miserable, and I understand, to a point!, about how much it sucked being furloughed, but **** happens and a lot worse **** happens to many others here, like sick kids, suicides, and other messed up isues that pale in comparison to being furloughed (especially if your single)
As for your disparaging remark about mid 1990's hires being somehow less qualified than others who went to the "majors" your dead wrong. I'm a Jan 1995 hire, and I'd gladly put up my 1995 resume against yours and probably make yours look silly. Second, In late 1994, early 1995 there were only 3 airlines hiring at the time, United just started, Southwest, and UPS. If you had half a brain in your head at the time, United was not anybody's first choice...for many reasons (they hired approximately 300 pilots with 10,000 plus on the list. plus the low-fare in-house start-ups like TED, and SONG (DELTA)were less than promising) Southwest was a viable option, but the real promise was this new fangled, interesting concept called the "Internet" and there were 2 airlines that stood to make a fortune from it: UPS and FedEx.......Many of us saw the potential and overlooked the sub-standard pay here at UPS for a potentially very profitable future (which turned out to be true for us, maybe not so much for your time period). So don't be too quick to dismiss 1990's hires as slugs who couldn't get a real airline job.
I hope your future here gets brighter, I think it will, be patient. When I was making $56/hr in 1998 I wasn't too happy either, but things improved. Now go and say a prayer for some of those sick kids, and stop your whining!
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