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Old 01-19-2007, 05:31 PM
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This is one of the great things about FedEx! Fast upgrade times if you want!
Not always. And stand by to have them slow down here as the company waits out the age 60 decision. Be happy and consider yourself fortunate that you are in a window seat.
 
Old 01-19-2007, 06:13 PM
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Not always. And stand by to have them slow down here as the company waits out the age 60 decision. Be happy and consider yourself fortunate that you are in a window seat.
I am very happy to be here, and even happier to have the opportunity to fly the 727. I am just saying that it is good that some people camp out in their seats, so others can upgrade if they want to.
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:04 PM
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Again....I have malice towards NONE.

I'm digging being close to captain with 25 % seniority. I don't begrudge anyone for seat camping. I just think this optimizing in out of our hands. Period. I hope our SIG does good stuff for our side. Period.

Albie out....
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Old 01-20-2007, 04:59 AM
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Knocker: Yeah, I only mean I think that things are going to slow down here, and folks are going to be stuck in their new hire seat for more than a year or so that has been the case over the past 2 years.

Why do I think that?

Age 60 possible change, company hedging their bets.

757s replacing 727s (3 pilots to 2)

MD10s and MD11s and Airbus growth not enough to offset the loss of the DC10. (pilot wise again 3 - 2)

I hope I am wrong, but I think things are going to slow down.
 
Old 01-20-2007, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SNAFU View Post
Knocker: Yeah, I only mean I think that things are going to slow down here, and folks are going to be stuck in their new hire seat for more than a year or so that has been the case over the past 2 years.

Why do I think that?

Age 60 possible change, company hedging their bets.
Personally, I don't AGE 60 will be nearly as detrimental to us at Fedex if it passes as it is elsewhere.

We didn't lose our pensions. Furthurmore, my hope is that folks here are smart enough to know that every year past 60 that you needlessly fly is only one more accelerated year toward your death.

When I'm 60, I'm punching....
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Old 01-20-2007, 07:30 AM
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The guys before us put a stop to FedEx trying to optimize our schedules, who's to say it can't be done again.

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Old 01-20-2007, 08:30 AM
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The guys before us put a stop to FedEx trying to optimize our schedules, who's to say it can't be done again.

Never fly fatigued.
You're absolutely right!

It will be up to the line pilots. Again.

I just want to know if anyone else is questioning why our union leadership would not only sign off, literally, on the next stage of optimizing. But actually, direct our SIG/PSIT to "accomodate" it.

Like has been said, over and over. If , the company didn't need our permission. Why did we give them permission with this letter?


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From D.W.'s letter:

"...We expect and have tasked our SIG/PSIT to accommodate reasonable requests in the scheduling process and to acknowledge legitimate business concerns while safeguarding our members from the debilitating effects of fatigue..."
Maybe, I'm just too skeptical of our new "working relationship" with our good friends in management. I don't think so.

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Old 01-20-2007, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SNAFU View Post

757s replacing 727s (3 pilots to 2)

MD10s and MD11s and Airbus growth not enough to offset the loss of the DC10. (pilot wise again 3 - 2)

I hope I am wrong, but I think things are going to slow down.

The 757 isn't going to initially replace the 727, at least not the -200's.

There's not too many DC10's left. It won't be too long before everyone in the back seat is going to be over 60 anyway. I bet that happens before the last DC is gone. And then the over 60 (over 65?) will go to the back of the 727, which there are quite a few already there too.

Don't forget the 777's down the line too.
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Old 01-20-2007, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SNAFU View Post
Why do I think that?

Age 60 possible change, company hedging their bets..
No telling what the affect of this will be. Opinions on all sides vary, but yes, it will probably slow down advancements.

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757s replacing 727s (3 pilots to 2).
So far, the only retirements of 72s is the 9 remaining 100s by May. No 200 are scheduled to retire, so far. Also, the last schedule I saw only showed 34 757s online by 2010, so 75s will not decrease hiring anytime soon.

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MD10s and MD11s and Airbus growth not enough to offset the loss of the DC10. (pilot wise again 3 - 2)
We currently have 24 DC10s and the last one isn't scheduled for conversion until june, 2010. This calender year, we will lose 9 DC10s to the conversion line, but we take delivery of 28 Busses, MD10s and 11s. Sounds like pretty steady growth to me. Close to 400 new seats, vs the loss of around 160 DC10 seats, one third of which are probably taken up by over 60 guys.

May not be huge growth, but it will be steady growth.
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Old 01-21-2007, 04:50 AM
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Knocker: Yeah, I only mean I think that things are going to slow down here, and folks are going to be stuck in their new hire seat for more than a year or so that has been the case over the past 2 years.
Oh, My Gawd,

Pilots being "stuck" in their new hire seat for more than a year; cats and dogs sleeping together; blasphemy. But I suppose you should ask my second-to-latest (sponsored) new guy. He went from the back of the 727 to the right seat of said jet, to the right seat of the Mad Dog, all in barely a year. Sure beats the heck out of sitting somewhere for 4 or 5 years, or 15 or 20 years which was normal at some of the passenger carriers in the 70's thru 80's.
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