Delta TA in six months, Fedex 5 years, nada
06-10-2015, 01:16 PM
#33
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Originally Posted by Commando
Delta plus a Nickel? Go back to the Playground.
Delta plus $20.00. And that's a maybe.
Delta plus $20.00. And that's a maybe.
That's what, $100 a year more to fly the backside of the clock with dangerous goods ?
GMAFB
06-10-2015, 03:30 PM
#34
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Timid leadership has brought about most of our problems with this contract negotiations ........... Off timing for rank and file to demonstrate via picketing that was not scheduled prudently, continuous fracture in the rank and file on what is important. The company takes advantage of us at every corner and most folks know this but the status quo is keeping the issues and other problems alive.
06-10-2015, 08:45 PM
#35
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Originally Posted by CactusCrew
Right. A nickel ?
That's what, $100 a year more to fly the backside of the clock with dangerous goods ?
GMAFB
I'd be interested in knowing the number that's required to match the first-15-year earnings of a typical FedEx pilot versus a typical Delta pilot. Having the same top hourly rate won't cut it, as the Delta pilot reaches that top tier 3 years before the FedEx pilot maxes out. Our top rate would have to be higher in order to achieve even the same compensation in the first 15 years.
Maybe we should be looking to make our 12-year rates Delta plus a nickel.
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06-12-2015, 09:54 AM
#36
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A lot of frothing at the bit on the PAX discussions amongst the DA guys. One area they are all up about that we should be concerned is the sick leave changes. I know our mgnt. has been working overtime to limit the (in thier minds) "abuse" of SCK. I could see this issue coming back to us if they ratify this TA.
06-12-2015, 12:37 PM
#37
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Originally Posted by dckozak
... I know our mgnt. has been working overtime to limit the (in thier minds) "abuse" of SCK. I could see this issue coming back to us if they ratify this TA.
According to FDX Negotiating Committee updates, Management has been spewing LOTS of "Well, the industry standard ... does XYZ." And ALPA's rely has been, "We're not in the same business" (maybe not even in the same industry?).
Personally, I'm more concerned that Management will wave Delta's pay rates in front of us when we ask for a LOT more than that!
Good answer!*?
06-12-2015, 01:01 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
Personally, I'm more concerned that Management will wave Delta's pay rates in front of us when we ask for a LOT more than that!
Good answer!*?
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06-12-2015, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tuck
Tony or anyone - what's the history on our 15 year scales? How in the world did we ever get those when industry standard was 12?
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