UPS Hiring?
 

Air Operations - First Officer jobs in Louisville at United Parcel Service

Hope so:eek:

they can hire hundreds more and we will still move backwards and still only be 90 days from a furlough......

Only at UPS can you hire pilots and manage to move backwards and have a lower quality of life.....

Especially after this last bid right:eek:

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Buddy just called me that got hired at FedEx. Told him he was better off. His upgrade to captain at FedEx will happen before we get the chance to here. Kinda sad.

Just wondering if UPS is getting the same number of applicants that they use to. I'm sure I already know the answer.:cool:

Very very low attrition. Zero Aircraft Orders.

Why do they need to Hire? The 25 a year Retirements have already been Hired for this year.

Unless a TA is coming this Fall with the $4500/yr A-Plan. Then we can see maybe 50 leave early.

More money will not increase retirements. CAs make 300K, I know several. They will leave when they are forced out. Age 60 for full retirement should be your target for those who are thinking about staying married or knowing their children/grandchildren. Perhaps demonstrating the ability to exit via the cockpit window would increase retirements.

My guess is that the "pool" is empty because of the few they hired, and many others were hired by a real airline.

So perhaps they are re-filling the pool to be ready for next year.

It's not a pool anymore it's called a swamp and filled with future Nurps

I'm sure someone forced to retire before the new contract is signed will try to sue the IPA for retro pay, the improved A-plan, etc. :eek:

I think we will see maybe 5 leave early!

It sure is too bad some of these old bastards that were hired in 1988 ( the year UPS started flying their own planes ) don't have a hobby & they would retire. I'm 50 yrs old & have been @ UPS for 20 yrs, I can't even imagine staying in this job for another 15 yrs.

They won't need to. They are contractually owed any retro pay for time worked. Every contract so far has been that way, but hey, it's more fun to spew your frustrations out at your senior IPA brothers, eh? BTW, that includes "signing bonus" as well. You might try directing your anger and frustration toward the real source of your angst. Or not.

Oh Boy, here we go again with another 20 page thread about hiring and life at UPS.

Still in the pool.

How UPS Sucks? Try 40 pages.

Oh yea, when is our next airplane delivery? Never?

Just shortly thereafter, but it's a delivery to the boneyard for some of the MD's.

Right after we get a new contract, or never

Come on people!

Truth Hurts FOforlife? Can't u pass an Upgrade? I know, it is a pain. But the facts are UPS has Hired maybe 70 pilots Since 2007. That's 8 years my friend. With a trickle going forward. 100 new hires over 10 years?

No Aircraft orders since 2005? Yes indeed, this place does suck. And I'm a 21 year CA. So it must be bad.

+1 What he said.

UPS has hired 90 pilots since 2007. We have 750 mandatory retirements over the next 10 years. The past 10 years show that we have had about half again as many retirements over the mandatory number. The next 10 years could realistically see over 1100 retirements.

B2P

Two UPS FQS (Mgt pilots) have had hard landings in the last 6 weeks while conducting IOE. One was the hardest documented A300 landing ever. Plane is back in service but had extensive mx done to it.

FAA and UPS is awakening to the reality that FQS doing training is a real safety issue. FAA wants them to fly the line much, much more than they normally have done. UPS doesn't want to pay to displace union pilots so Mgt can fly the line. IPA has been quiet about the matter as negotiations are on going.

Never said thus place doesn't suck so what's you ****ing point?

Just agreeing with you Francis.

Lot of over 60 guys failing their upgrades lately.

These are numbers going forward. But for 90 New Hires the Last 8 years is just depressing. With Hundreds retiring the same time frame. So we avg. 10 Hires a year? And please show me the numbers. I don't see 75 a year retiring mandatory the next 10 years. And even if it's true, are these numbers suppose to make up for the last 10? 10 years is 1/3rd of a Career!

And where is the MD replacement? This is why KLM retired it, no parts.
Boeing has said they will not support the MD after 2018. That's three years away. But Zero Orders. You do the math.

I have done the math. There is a seniority Excel spreadsheet available on the B&G...Sort by DOB and count the age 65 retirements the next 10 years...There are 750. I didn't say it made up for anything in the past...I just gave you the correct numbers...which you didn't have.

If you're going to vent fine...Now you have some facts to actually base your opinion on.

B2P

You may have done the math B2, but in my opinion UPS doesn't plan on running an airline for another 20 years. They aren't ordering aircraft because they won't need them. They aren't hiring pilots because they won't need them. Slowly retire aircraft and pilots and eventually you will end up with a hundred airplanes and a thousand pilots. Yes, I'm down on this place right now��

Yet brown says the MD 11 will be flying until 2025! Give me a break

Well, you have some facts to go with your opinion too. I make no claims on how long the airline will hang around...I just ran the numbers for the next 10 years.

B2P

I do think the airline has peaked as far as pilots, but don't believe anything any management figure in SDF tell you about airline operations. Those guys have absolutely no clue what is actually going on or what is being planned. I was told to my face a few years back by the CHIEF PILOT of the airline we were not getting ANY new airplanes for at least ten years. Two weeks later, we made the order for new 76's. ATL makes all the decisions and rarely tells anyone in SDF what's going on.

All the new aircraft out there that can replace the MD11 wings are to long , and will not fit in World Port. Or so I've been told.

UPS can pay extra for a clipped wing version that burns more fuel !

:D

That's 2025 Z not year...remember these clown can't predict not needing 25 pilots 10 days out.

That's 10 yrs...not too long ago these idiots couldn't predict 25 new hires 10 days out sooooooooooo

Or the 90 day furlough notice.

Oh never-mind, cancel that we need you for another pay period.

One thing is consistent, the incompetence will continue.

:D

I heard there is maintenance planning through 2020. Nothing after that.

[QUOTE=Swedish Blender;1906761]I heard there is maintenance planning through 2020. Nothing after that.[/Q


Atlanta told you that? Didn't think so......

Master of the obvious. Did you pat yourself on the back for such a witty retort?

Even if they can make parts, it will be difficult to support when the MD breaks in Chengdu or Almaty. I don't think they will replace the MD. They will just take it to the boneyard and shrink the Airline even more. 1800 Pilots here in 2022. 1000 by 2030.

New Hires in there 30's are idiots to stay here. A plan or not.

They don't want an Airplane. Never Have. And it takes years to buy a New Airframe and get all the paperwork and training done. So obviously they are not replacing the MD. They have about 12-18 month window. We shall see.

So where does that leave FedEx?

Replacing the MD-10 with 767 and the MD-11 with 777.