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Old 01-14-2018, 08:21 AM
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Ah dont mean nottin

They had over 160 rampers no show them this weekend. They are saying its NOT a job action.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:52 AM
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The winter storm that dumped snow on northern Kentucky is probably the cause of ramp no shows.
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:24 AM
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"we are compensated 40% lower than current industry standard."

Why would you take a job that pays 40% less than industry standard? I'm guessing it's because no one else would hire you. I understand your desire for more pay, but this kind of reminds me of the girl who marries a dude with severe flaws but thinks "well, I'll just have to change him after we're married". I wish you well with your effort to increase your pay. The market forces should help you. But to complain about your pay when no one put a gun to your head to take the job seems a bit incredulous.
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CompetentFool View Post
"we are compensated 40% lower than current industry standard."

Why would you take a job that pays 40% less than industry standard? I'm guessing it's because no one else would hire you. I understand your desire for more pay, but this kind of reminds me of the girl who marries a dude with severe flaws but thinks "well, I'll just have to change him after we're married". I wish you well with your effort to increase your pay. The market forces should help you. But to complain about your pay when no one put a gun to your head to take the job seems a bit incredulous.

Perhaps you should ask some of the guys that took jobs with Fred in the early years. Somebody had to put the time in to get wages to what they are today.
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Old 01-14-2018, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CompetentFool View Post
"we are compensated 40% lower than current industry standard."

Why would you take a job that pays 40% less than industry standard? I'm guessing it's because no one else would hire you. I understand your desire for more pay, but this kind of reminds me of the girl who marries a dude with severe flaws but thinks "well, I'll just have to change him after we're married". I wish you well with your effort to increase your pay. The market forces should help you. But to complain about your pay when no one put a gun to your head to take the job seems a bit incredulous.
Thanks for the support. I guess the flip side of this argument is that we could all just accept what we currently have since that is all we had when we got hired. Amazon can continue to exploit our cheap labor as they grow, gain market share and put your company out of business. Would that be better?
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:20 PM
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Perhaps you should ask some of the guys that took jobs with Fred in the early years. Somebody had to put the time in to get wages to what they are today.
1990 UPS. Top CA pay 80K, FO 40K, no retirement, FAR contract. 50% or less of Majors and FedEx at that time.

A not uncommon way for UPS Managers to learn somebody had quit was to find their UPS issued kitbag with manuals left in the Flight Ops hallway in the morning. Many quit without having another job lined up.
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Old 01-14-2018, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CompetentFool View Post

I'm guessing it's because no one else would hire you. .
Kinda arrogant a bit aren't ya pal?
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:41 PM
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The reality is Amazon will start their own airline eventually. Who knows which airline the pilots will come from....

But me, me hey choose me!
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:48 PM
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The reality is Amazon will start their own airline eventually. Who knows which airline the pilots will come from....
Something I've always said, Atlas leased several 747s to Emirates for many years getting their freight operation spooled up. Eventually, Emirates got their own 777s and gave Atlas the boot.

I see the same thing happening at Amazon. They'll lease a fleet of 767s until they can sustain their own operation, then Atlas gets the boot again.

Amazon leases run until 2023. Amazon has exercised ZERO warrants. But they dropped $13.8 BILLION on Whole Foods outta the clear blue sky, but not a DIME on Atlas.
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Old 01-14-2018, 07:59 PM
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Kinda arrogant a bit aren't ya pal?
You're right and I apologize for that. I didn't use any tact. I guess what I meant to say is that he'd prolly taken another job if it paid 40% more. I could be wrong.
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