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Old 12-09-2015 | 01:35 AM
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Many of the TNT freighters are flown by subcontracted airlines. Even SouthernAir operated a 777F for them a few years ago. Titan Leasing (Atlas Worldwide) now owns the 3 TNT B777F's. I'll be curious to see what happens to those aircraft.
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Old 12-09-2015 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
777 has a pairing that does CGN-CDG-MUC-FRA (3 legs in a 777 ? ... I digress)
Exactly . Makes some 757 domestic trips look quite tame.


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I also wonder: A German shipped a package from Cologne to Munich. Can it go there via Paris on the first two legs of the above trip and not be considered cabotage since it wasn't flown directly within the borders of Germany?
I'm curious about that as well since we saw freight going from CGN to MUC. Not sure if it then went on the 777 or the MD11 to go on to FRA and then to the U.S. I would imagine it's tracked pretty closely by German/EU authorities.
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Old 12-09-2015 | 07:18 AM
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Many of the TNT freighters are flown by subcontracted airlines. Even SouthernAir operated a 777F for them a few years ago. Titan Leasing (Atlas Worldwide) now owns the 3 TNT B777F's. I'll be curious to see what happens to those aircraft.
Are you sure about the owerniship? Rumor around the schoolhouse says that is not the owner and the 3 planes are coming to us.

I have no facts or proof, just a schoolhouse rumor, and you know how good that is.
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Old 12-09-2015 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor

I'm curious about that as well since we saw freight going from CGN to MUC. Not sure if it then went on the 777 or the MD11 to go on to FRA and then to the U.S. I would imagine it's tracked pretty closely by German/EU authorities.
They way I understand it freight can go from CGN-FRA-EWR. I am no expert but, at least in the old days, you just couldn't unload CGN freight in FRA. Much like it used to be legal to fly British Airways from LA to London via JFK, you just couldn't fly LA to JFK on a foreign flagged carrier.
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Old 12-09-2015 | 07:33 AM
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Are you sure about the owerniship? Rumor around the schoolhouse says that is not the owner and the 3 planes are coming to us.

I have no facts or proof, just a schoolhouse rumor, and you know how good that is.
Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings

I'm 98% sure these are the 3 TNT B777F's. Titan also owns and leases back 2 of the AeroLogic 777F's and 1 Emirates B777F.

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Old 12-15-2015 | 12:59 AM
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How about the 74's? Any idea if TNT owns them or if they are leased?
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Old 06-11-2016 | 10:27 AM
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Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc.
Fleet (as of May 2016)


ACMI and Charter Segments:
• 33 Boeing freighter aircraft (ten 747-8s, 21 747-400s and two 747-400BCF/BDSFs)
• 4 Boeing Large Cargo Freighters (Boeing-owned – in CMI service)
• 4 Boeing 747-400 passenger aircraft (two in charter service; two provided by SonAir – in CMI service)
• 5 Boeing 777-200 freighter aircraft (provided by DHL Express – in CMI service)
• 5 Boeing 737-400 freighter aircraft (provided by DHL Express – in CMI service)
• 3 Boeing 767-300 passenger aircraft (in charter service)
• 1 Boeing 767-300 equivalent freighter aircraft (Florida West)
• 4 Boeing 767-300 freighter aircraft (provided by DHL Express – in CMI service)
• 9 Boeing 767-200 freighter aircraft (provided by DHL Express – in CMI service)
• 1 Boeing 767-200 passenger aircraft (provided by MLW Air – in CMI service)

Dry Leasing Segment:
• 6 Boeing 777 freighter aircraft (three leased to TNT; two to AeroLogic GmbH; one to Emirates) • 2 Boeing 767-300 freighter aircraft (both leased to DHL Express)
• 1 Boeing 757-200 freighter aircraft (leased to DHL Express)
• 1 Boeing 737-800 passenger aircraft (leased to Corendon Airlines)
• 1 Boeing 737-300 freighter aircraft (leased to China Postal Airlines)

The fleet above includes two 767-300s that are both dry leased to DHL Express and operated for them under separate CMI agreements.

Source: http://www.atlasair.com/holdings/Cor...May%202016.pdf
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