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Old 02-15-2016, 12:27 PM
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Over twenty years, however in my seat position, that's not very senior. The bus has a decent amount of day flying, however if you're junior, you have to make a concerted effort to get it. It's like a second job, really, not everyone is into spending their life on the computer, but if you notice my post count, it's obvious that it doesn't bother me!

I have found that getting up really early, flying many legs, getting a short layover, can be far more exhausting than 1-2 legs at night, with a much longer layover. Though it's not for everyone. Does UPS have the same options? I would think there is a huge diversity in flying schedules with UPS also. I just wouldn't completely rule out freight because of night flying, unless you truly hate it.
Thanks for that bit of info, maybe I'll be your FO someday!
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Old 02-15-2016, 12:41 PM
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Thanks for that bit of info, maybe I'll be your FO someday!
Hope it's soon, looks like we need people pretty badly. Vacation sell back and advance volunteer in all seats. I'd be happy to share my trip trading tips with you, there's a world of difference between flying the terrible trips and the great ones at FedEx, probably more than most airlines. I have heard UPS is similar in that respect.
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Old 02-15-2016, 01:22 PM
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I have found that getting up really early, flying many legs, getting a short layover, can be far more exhausting than 1-2 legs at night, with a much longer layover. Though it's not for everyone.
I'm with you. Of course, it helps to be blessed with the ability to sleep any time of day or night. A good nap and I'm good for any all-nighter.

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Thanks for that bit of info, maybe I'll be your FO someday!
You're at Omni, no? I should think your experience there would make you a shoe in for FedEx or UPS. You can't get that kind of wide body International experience just anywhere. If I was a young guy with a career ahead of me, I'd be doing EXACTLY what you're doing. Best of luck, and I mean that sincerely.
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Old 02-15-2016, 04:11 PM
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I should think your experience there would make you a shoe in for FedEx or UPS. You can't get that kind of wide body International experience just anywhere. If I was a young guy with a career ahead of me, I'd be doing EXACTLY what you're doing. Best of luck, and I mean that sincerely.
Don't do that for UPS thinking it will help. Only do it you want to.

I had friends go to Evergreen thinking the same thing. Flew the classic,-400, and even the Dreamlifter before it went to Atlas. They have obviously since moved on, but couldn't get a call from UPS then or now.
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Old 02-15-2016, 05:09 PM
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I had friends go to Evergreen thinking the same thing. Flew the classic,-400, and even the Dreamlifter before it went to Atlas.
Atlas isn't all that bad a career move either.
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Old 02-15-2016, 06:53 PM
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Atlas isn't all that bad a career move either.
Please read the last few pages on the Atlas Air Hiring thread before you say that. It could quite possibly be the worst career move you could make now. Management has very clearly laid out their intentions and roadmap to screw us. With merger and contract amalgamation talk there are VERY turbulent times ahead...
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Old 02-16-2016, 06:06 AM
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Back to the topic a bit:

Doesn't UPS reserve in SDF go senior? That would mean OP would be able to hold a line sooner and commuting to sit reserve wouldn't be a factor.
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Old 02-16-2016, 11:46 AM
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Back to the topic a bit:

Doesn't UPS reserve in SDF go senior? That would mean OP would be able to hold a line sooner and commuting to sit reserve wouldn't be a factor.

That's the irony ... YES, reserve in SDF does go somewhat senior. As a bottom 10%'er, I am able to hold whatever RSVA line is remaining. No choice of days off, and sometimes it can mean 20-30 days on call when the bids transition.

.... BUT .... even RSVA (midnight-noon on call) is better than the lines that do make it to the bottom, and I live in domicile ... commuting isn't a factor in my choice. It would suck for the bottom lines. Possibly more time away from home than a reserve line.

So in summary, reserve goes senior for a REASON, ... the OP isn't going to get a great clean commutable line
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Old 02-16-2016, 07:18 PM
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.... even RSVA (midnight-noon on call) is better than the lines that do make it to the bottom
I sure am glad there are a lot of you guys out there that can do this because I sure as heck am not built for this!

I can do a late night call once in a blue moon.....every night, no way.
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Old 02-17-2016, 04:02 AM
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I sure am glad there are a lot of you guys out there that can do this because I sure as heck am not built for this!

I can do a late night call once in a blue moon.....every night, no way.
We play the odds, thankfully the phone doesn't ring every night ... yet.

And for me, I can bid a line one or two bid periods a year for a change. I think some of the others do the same.
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